Ayo Loki

This is interesting. 35outrage + 35 havoc (70) vs. 45 Eruption of Pures. The fight went on for a good 45 minutes i would say. And being out opted by 25 peoples? damn. It may go down in the books that Outrage+Havoc "won" the fight. But your performance on the battlefield was terrible and Eop outplayed every move. But in the end we were just too out numbered. Goodfight Outrage+Havoc was a really fun fight. You guys weren't even close to 'outplaying' Havoc. We were like puppetmasters, pulling the strings and making you guys return for more stackable loots (runes/bolts/etc). You guys didn't outplay any move, you never once GWAS'd Havoc at the gap, while we had you held there and east multiple times. You had rangers at your gap attempting to damage our magers, while our turmoilers just banged them out left and right. If we manage to recruit some more strong core members, we'll give you a straight 1 on 1 fight, and like our other matched fights we had we will come out undefeated.

CT didn't attack any of us except the very very few members who decided they would stay to try to get more loot. At least 28~ out of 35~ of us were at edge bank with our loots.

We'd fight you guys if it was at gdz :thumbsup:

I should clean that up! ;P

I'm sorry, I forgot to put our new banner up lol, one second. Edit: On second thought, I won't put it in. I think it needs to be re-sized lol. For any of you fans of Pat's GFX, the banner can be found here: http://www.havoc-rs.com/

PM us man we'll fight out opt we don't care lol you don't know how many clans we PM asking for a run in and get completely ignored, or the question is dodged :confused:

#Havoc | Site | Members List Videos:Zacks vid on IR fight: Zacks vid on EOP fight Havoc set out today with a strong 35 Pull, later peaking at 37 and ending with 34. We had a pretty successful trips, not being cleared once and taking a lot of loot and getting away with it too! We rushed from east drags into sperm hill and saw IR there. We easily picked off all the IR in our level range (low lvl wild sucks) and pushed west into the rest of IR. There we saw CPR, our ol' pals. Seeing as IR STILL had mains, we decided to just stay off our friends and focus on IR. Maybe 5~ people died here, was a pretty easy fight. Basically pushed IR in and out of CA, then we heard CT was coming and we know how they don't like IR right now so we ran off into graveyard and here was the situation we contemplated:Stick around and fight a fresh CT, or take our loots, leave and let CT fight IR. We chose to take the loot. Havoc:35 Intense Redemption:30~ (16:29:54) <@hotkeying> like 30 Havoc: 30~ Intense Redemption:20~ before we let them return for more loot (probably around 15-20~ after we let them return) Easily the funnest fight of our trip today, basically Outrage set up a run in vs EOP, and we both decided we'll just team on them to pay them back for crashing our past runs in recently. The fight started with Outrage fighting EOP at the gap, EOP was south and Outrage was north. Havoc instantly ran around GDZ hut and charged towards Outrage, at first we wanted to kill everybody, and we were, but we saw Outrage were spamming "off Havoc" and decided to just stick to what we planned to do. We then baited a lot of EOP, and constantly harrassed their Magers, our spread was optimal for dragging EOP and hitting their clusters. Whenever EOP got low in numbers, Outrage pulled around single strip and ran into EOP south of the gap from the east. Havoc then started to regroup and reorganize our spread north of the gap. At this time, Morris from Outrage was sending me a lot of PM's, saying to "let our returners through gap" and "help us why aren't you pushing??". The concept is simple, dominate the gap war, let EOP return group head back into the fight, grab more loot, and reorganize ourselves while EOP tried to get more returners. After a while we decided to just go in, so we pushed EOP all the way to Dwarves, and called an organized spread by corporeal entrance incase EOP would still attempt to return. As Outrage cleared up the last of EOP (I guess?), I teleported back to Edge, saw EOP just chatting in edgeville and by bridge, returned by mossies where 2-3~ EOP were being chased around, and saw Havoc still spread at corporal entrance with NOBODY fighting us. I then moved our spread, walking, around Dwarves, Piper hill, and GDZ. No EOP to be found and Outrage hopped. Thanks for the loot EOP, was an amusing fight. Good job on not being cleared (only Outrage tried to clear you guys ASAP btw) and lasting for a while out opt. Havoc:35 Outrage:35~ (From their topic) Eruption of Pures:45(Their topic) Havoc: 30~ Outrage:32~ (Their topic) Eruption of Pures:0 (Not from their topic, but they didn't return while we were still on same inventory waiting for more returners from EP to fight us) Pictures of Intense Redemption fight: Pictures of Eruption of Pures fight: Random Pictures: Overall was a fun trip, thanks for the fights everyone just kidding **** off we had to crash everything l0l

There was no treatment from EoP, they didn't do **** to us today except get one fair 1v1 win vs us (we thought CP was going to attempt to sandwich, so we really messed our spread up). We only teamed on them to repay them for crashing our fights vs Outrage (they specifically must have been targeting Outrage, but I don't like when HPC's crash my clan's fights) for the past 2 weeks.

I would take you serious if you didnt lose. You guys lost what are you happy about. Regardless of if it was a 2 vs 1. You guys called returns off. YOU stay out of the wilderness tough guy. 2nd time we've beat you ona sunday :P Gf though I'm happy cause it was fun lol. I don't care if we "lost", cause we would have beaten both clans each if it was a 1 on 1 situation. Not vs Havoc in a gap fight my friend :whistling:

Thank Asher, you can find him in #Clan_Carnage :thumbsup:

You guys know that we took turns hitting you right? We rarely fought you guys at the same time, it was mostly Havoc taking over the "gap war", then outrage pushing you to dwarves for a bit and running back north for us to take over again. We maybe had about 20-30~ deaths overall from this, and that's exaggerating a bit. I personally never died, and I always lead the pushes for Havoc, making myself a main pile. If you guys really think you can survive 40~ outrage + 35 strong P2Ping Havoc, we'll make sure to clear you guys right away next time. Aside from that, thanks for the loot on the 2nd fight, repayed what we lost on our first.

;P!

Only just managed to sum up some courage to be able to reply to this topic. Greatjob Havoc sucks that some of our members cliked the portal. Weldone clearly you are alot better than us at P2p. Honestly at the most I'd say maybe 2-3 of your members clicked the portal, because in the CC you can see b3astpwn banged one out, I know I banged another out, and our first person to be taken out click the portal himself. IMO, there is nothing to be ashamed of losing to Havoc out opting us in P2P, it's only something for us to be proud of as it is our only focus. It's also like I said before, if this was F2P, and our pulls were switched, I'm sure you guys would've destroyed us there.

We are Demacians

Didn't even know half of these clans were doing PCL =x

Thanks ^_^

Thanks. To be honest, I think we didn't do as well as we could've vs you guys, even though we were out opt I kind of expected to get you guys down to at least 30~, so good job for not getting cocky on us ;P

I don't understand what was cheap about it, we didn't wait for them to attack so they didn't get GWAS'd. We ran out from behind the portal before they attacked, so they had a huge spread advantage while we didn't. The only advantage we obtained from that was Zenith most likely thought we were going to complete troll for the first 15 seconds. What won it for us was out calls for spread, our draggers who distracted about 15~ Zenith, and our tanks/piles.

Thats the thing, it wasn't much of a strategy, it gives us a huge disadvantage if they spread on both sides and just hug the portal while GWASing us. We stood behind the portal with the thought of suicide fighting them. Out opt fights nowadays really depends on how good your caller can change spreads to your advantage, which is what I did after the first few kills. It was really a good fight, but we simply out performed Zenith. It's to be expected, we are strongly P2P based, and they are strongly F2P. If we ever fought Zenith 50v30 in F2P, they'd destroy us lol

This fight vs Zenith was very important to me as a leader, because so many people said Havoc would never be able to do this again: I'm glad to have made our founder Wade proud, and most likely my old friend Z To X Ic Z (Pat). Old friends who really make this clan fun to lead, only wish Mack was there as well to see this

Thanks, we really went in to suicide until I noticed we only lost 1 (who left portal) within the first 30 seconds. We really went all out after that, some major calling and dragging really made the fight for us.

#Havoc | Site | Members List Videos Today, Havoc set out with 27 members, later peaking on to 35 and finally ending with 28. Today, we had fights where we were out opt heavily, out opt a clan, and almost even fights. Pretty even, overall was extremely fun for our members. Thanks to all who gave us fights. Sadly, I am not going to list all the fights, as we were purely having fun today, we didn't bother putting a vid up for any other fight besides our last. Here is how our PCL went down in a tl;dr: Havoc Vs Zenith (32v38 someone confirm please)Havoc loses. Havoc vs CPR (35~v28~?, thanks for the fight, amazing job by CPR doing very well out opt, bringing us down to I think 24~) Havoc Vs Intese Redemption (34~v32~) Havoc Wins Havoc vs Intense Redemption (34~v32~) Havoc Wins Havoc vs Fatality (32v45~) Havoc Loses Havoc vs Massacre (28v25~)Havoc Wins Havoc vs Zenith (29v40) Havoc Wins <--- Highlight of our PCL (Only fight we uploaded and will talk about.) This was to be our final fight, we had hope for us to have 35~ this time, but people had to leave. When we saw Zenith have 30~ almost instantly, I called for everyone to stand behind the portal. I gave a very small pep talk telling my members the only way we will win is if we stand behind portal and get ready to spam DEMACIAAAAAAA.. CHARGE!. We were all set up, ready to troll and most likely suicide as we saw the hoard of 40 Zenith spread bone to bone, heading towards our portal. I told our members to wait behind portal, do not rush or spam until my go. As Zenith nearly aligned the portal, I called the spread and spam, with 29 strong Havoc members spamming DEMACIAAAA we quickly poured specs and piles from the start and managed to bang a few people out. I checked the score and noticed it was 28v36 when I announced to my members "START TANKING! WE CAN WIN THIS!" From there, we focused on strong piles and made a call to change the spreads to Havocs favor. From there, we managed to trade off kills nearly in a 2:1 ratio. The fight stayed this way until it came downt o 13v16, here is when Zenith called our Super Tank as a pile. We managed to kill off 4 Zenith before our super tank was finally taken down (true Demacian). The fight became even at 12v12, and Havoc managed to keep a 1 man lead on Zenith until it became 6v4, where Havoc finally took the full advantage and won the fight. Havoc vs Zenith Havoc:29 Zenith :40 Havoc:5 Zenith :0 Not going into detail about the other fights. Enjoyed PCL, thanks for the fights everybody.

Havoc didn't :whistling:

Funny you should come to that conclusion, when MM hasn't had a war in 2011. Closest thing to a F2P fullout right here :whistling: Not to mention all the similar opt'd fights MM has lost to both FOE and MM in the wild this year :whistling: Anyway, not trying to start an argment, just stating a fact that when MM's ml has increased so much this year their quality has obviously plummeted :P Not to mention their F2P full out last year where they were pulling 70-80s to trips then got about 30~ old members back on for one war who haven't played for a long time and won that war :whistling:

malice's gfx makes me want 2 join them they're so unique and fun to look at =]