Grogs

There definitely were people implying it.

 

The point of what I'm saying isn't that I should be called a pure or a pker - I'm a hybrid and I use my bonus to dispose of the enemy as effectively as possible... if 1 defence has a harder time doing that, then why be 1 defence? Novelty? Fun? I find neither of those in dying to people that do aim to make a more effective build.

 

Like I said earlier, I'd rather be backed by people with good builds - than just people with good pures. This is why rune pure clans accept tank rangers - both accounts are useful in their own ways.

 

The times of pking have changed; show me a week at pcl without overheads up from start to finish? go to drags without someone turning protects on within seconds.

Low def used to be one of the most effective types of account to pk with, not so much anymore. You said it yourself, people stick with low defence as tradition, novelty and fun. It's why we compete amongst ourselves rather rune pures/tanks/mains which have an obvious advantage over us. I don't get what you are defending, if you agree you're not a pure or shouldn't be amongst pure clanning what's your point? Making pure clans based around combat level wouldn't be a "pure" clan, because anybody could join. Rune pures/tanks are in the same category because they have similar bonuses.

As for prayer; why would prayer level matter (after 43) if a fight where prayer is allowed happens. ie. PCL, hybrid fight etc. People use prayer when hybriding because it takes away the luck factor from the fight. While rune pures/mains can put on tank gear to defend against melee, good mage defence gear for when they mage etc. What can pures put on? Prayer. Don't know what this has to do with the argument of 35 defence in pure clans though. It's just splitting hairs lol.

I never said pure clans everywhere should accept me, I just defended my build.

 

It does matter what my combat is, I've been doing well against pures since I was a level 56- all the way up to 84 combat now... pure clans generally pk from 65-90 combat, I'm still in that bracket - and will be for quite sometime.

If you walk into the wild, I can attack you; just because I'm not 1 def and you are doesn't change a thing.

To reject builds with defence in the combat range from the pure community would reject the pure community from the wild and the way the combat system works.

 

I will repeat the technicality of pures being "defenceless" when most of them have protection prayers in place of defence, not so defenceless when 40% of attacks are blocked.

Unless someone with a divine qualifies as "defenceless" - you're not defenseless.

A pure in my opinion is 1 def, 1-16 prayer, perhaps even up to 36 prayer depending on the situation. If you don't fit that frame then you're in no position to judge defence.

Nobody is saying your account build is bad, it's effective. The same way an 80 defence, 90 range account with venge is effective. It just doesn't fit in pure clanning community. ;p Your first paragraph sounds exactly like what i'd imagine my tank range targets to say lol. They might be effective against 1 defence pures in the 65-90 combat range but they're not pures. Your argument would allow rune pures & tank rangers in pure clans, it can't be applied them so it can't apply to you just because you haven't got the extra 5 defence levels.

Your reasoning for prayer being impure doesn't really make sense to me. I got 52 for smite in old wild as an offensive stat, not defensive. I could turn protect melee on in an edgeville fight if I wanted to stop you hitting high on me, but your defence is there constantly to stop me hitting on you. A lot of pures got 70/80 prayer in Fi wayyy before turmoil. Not to be more effective at their combat, just to last longer in f2p and clw fights against other pures where prayer is allowed. It's defence level that determines a pure or not. Nothing else.

few laughs from the topic. every week someone says something bad against another clan (eg. teaming), then people in the same clan quote and say +1 and how it proves why they won a runescape battle. then you open a topic from a week before and see they teamed themselves lol. it straight up goes against everything they're defending in one argument from last weeks argument on another topic... happens every week. it's easy to get sucked in by it, we're all guilty of it but damn.. just stop caring and arguing over this game lol

Having low defence is the simplest way to have a lower combat level but at the same time have high offensive stats. That's a pures definition in it's simplest form, it's how it started and just how it is traditionally. No splitting hairs about this point and that point with other stats like prayer etc.

People who didn't want to get hit high as often or wanted more bonuses got 40/45 defence. It's a whole new milestone as you get a lot more/better defence and offense bonuses. Those bonuses (especially defence) are so high compared to 1 defence pures it makes it unfair and gives them a clear advantage. It's a whole new category of "pure". That's why we don't compete with rune pures and they don't compete with maxed out main clans on a matched playing field. Each category competes within itself just like boxing.

You can't say because your account is such a good setup to pk with, it should be the new type of pure everyone should allow and want. Especially when you're saying you want to get hit less. By that logic we could allow 70+ defence tank rangers that are still around the same combat level as us and can be more effective than a 1 defence pure nowadays. No matter how effective your stats are at your combat level, you're closer to a rune pure than a defenceless pure. That's the category you fall in.

I mean look at the banner "Pure Warfare - Home of the defenceless". It should be that simple.

well obviously a clan that can be good in both is better. but clans usually have a favored server so they'll lean towards that and draw members that enjoy that server too. i think p2p is a lot more fun personally and a lot harder than f2p. it's a different set of skills to be good at either though

The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him.

qft. don't bother arguing with idiots, they'll only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

looked like a lot of action, i missed out =[ i wish people would stop caring about wins/losses. the fact you're fighting a buncha clans at once should be fun! if you weren't involved in clans you wouldn't experience it, just enjoy the fights you have and say gf afterwards

black bucket helm represent son

Some of you may already know, but I just thought i'd post it here so everyone can show their respect. A member of the old Fatality, Te Amo 666/George, was found dead in his apartment on Oct 4.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...London-bus.html

George was a great guy, I was always tentative to speak to him at first because of his legendary status. He was very down to earth and a great part of Fatality's community. As an old school member, he was respected highly and well known for being one of the few maxed F2P pures. He quit once he got into Cambridge University, one of the top colleges in the world. He always aimed to be the best which shows, no dobut. Had bags of potential in his life. Heart goes out to him, reast in peace man.

Sorry but your wrong, I didnt leave because of mark i left because the leaders were terrible and blamed the members when they were the ones to blame.

2 people out of an 80-90 memberlist. Let it go?

fatality had a great history aswell as group of people in the community which is why i ended up there. domminated f2p for a long while, then domminated p2p during pcl era. it's too hard to have a clear cut 1,2,3 etc though. i like tlp a lot because of their p2p game, i remember going a tlp junior trip on my mates account at hills which was awesome. lot of things i like about mm too, too hard to put in an order though lol

Someone mentioned being an admin on PN.. I don't know if it's true or not... Personally I don't trust the kid at all, still an absolute joke of a point, as PW has an MM member at admin who is more than happy to crash PW official events and hand out FOE leaders' IPs.

Understand where I'm coming from now, John?

 

"Your Site"

This site isn't led by any clan... just the members who grew sick of PWs ******** and had the balls to/resources to make a new site.

I understand this'll quickly become a 'troll' or 'catchphrase'...a way to flame the site. Saying it's owned by FOE or whatever, so before that starts, have fun with the propaganda you're so fond of flaming.

"PW has an MM member at admin who is more than happy to crash PW official events" You act like he done it personally. Do you think an admin who set up the event has any say in what his clan does when he's just a member of that clan? Any admin could have set it up, the outcome would be the same.

PN is made out of spite because of losing a fun event lol. The only reason it's made is to ensure power is with the clan leaders of FOE, EOP and Ch so that they have authority to throw it around and be biased. I gurantee no MM leaders will have admin, while FOE will; this goes against everything you hated about PW. Not only that, it's going to split the community in half... You act like you're liberating everybody from the big bad men of PW when you're creating the mirror image of what you *think* PW is, only in your favour and a lot worse lol.

So, no wins?

Did you accidently hit the spacebar when scrolling down and miss the eop part?

I always enjoy run ins with TLP and still do, you guys won the fights, everyone needs to stop fretting as if we claimed a win. Don't know why you're still so bitter serbia, you didn't like mark apparently and he's not even in the clan anymore. It's about time you stopped caring mate

flash3:beast mode activated

Partly true lol

 

Anyways, i was watching tt vs rot fight a week ago and this rot member left his main pile and starts attacking me because i was his targ. rot #1 rolf

 

ok cool

enjoyed battling with you guys, was a good night

was fun competing alongside other clans like ch who we don't normally fight with. everyone on the red team done an awesome job, well done boys!

was great fun which was the whole point of the event. hopefully we can move on and keep up the respect <3

:)

edit:nvm the pics where deleted

i remember when i first played, someone smithed me a set of full steel. went to fally mine and traded someone for their invent of iron and got dropped by the scorpion. didn't log in for weeks

Nope, MM+HF won. This isn't even a flame because it's obvious they crashed.

 

 

 

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I was sniped by mains during the fight and when returning to the fight going past bhb too. There was no mm/hf at the actual battle though.

First fight started at furnace (hella laggy so stopped recording), moved south then north, pushing blue team past corp:

Pushing blue team into single:

Second fight started at north bh stairs, quickly pushed blue team north all the way to lava gap:

Ty to PW :>

way to ruin evan's song you mugs!

but seriously, foe, tlp, cp, carnage, ir are all experienced clans. eop and fi are the only clans on the same level really lol. oh well gunna be interesting

nice job grogs, very simplistic yet very well done

thanks. it started off looking bad, but as i added the layers with more shading and textures it ended up looking not too shabby ;p

Too see how mad people would get, last forum i hit a nerve and got banned lol

na, you tried posing other people's work as your own, then got caught out. rookkk

wow i fell asleep and missed this :c

when we fought eop at fog a couple weeks back, i died to hf about the same amount of times as i did to eop, if not more. if they're at fog not much you can do. at the end of the day it loked like a fun night and that's all that matters. well played mm

same thing over and over, got boring for me. gl on next