Jayhawk Pk

which means with me over winter break.^

Goodbye, I'll always respect the likes of suwoop, oldpker, and goop when i knew him.

Hi, you seem like a great guy but

 

your pass on fi forums was the same as RSC :P

same as most of my passwords for other fan sites as well. I played in a time of trust and respect, not under the table tactics. but I hold no grudges, especially when I myself am at fault for poor password management. In fact the password i have for this site was created for me by one of the first admins because i was to lazy to come up with my own.

FOE, you were the clan i respected the most, through out your existence you lived by your motto "never cheat, never lie, final ownage till i die"

Rest well comrades

I am legitimately sad that all of our clans are closing, despite being inactive for nearly 3 years I made sure to check in on all the drama that was happening around here. I never imagined the pillar clans like FOE/EOP/FI/MM would close their doors (MM hasn't closed yet officially. (no flame)) literally an entire generation of our childhood will be lost with nothing to show for it other than the fading memories of past battles and people we met. In high school (ages ago) fatality was place where i could hang out during the weekends separate from parties/friends/sports/school. I developed friends that may have moved on but certainly won't be forgotten. I hope you all realize that this EoC single handedly did what BH/PVP/Trade limit could never do, kill the pure community.

I'd like to give mad props to all the clans that gave it a go, without you i would have felt great guilt in not attempting to help keep FI open for the sake of everyone. for discussion's sake what clans remain open, and are actively pursuing EOC?

Ahh, community forums, where to start?

 

Lets start by asking ourselves this question, Do you think having community forums (PC, PW etc.) has ruined the relationships amongst pure clans in the past 1-2 years?

 

There is an advantage and disadvantage, the advantage is that it is easier to communicate with the community, and let other clans, and players of this particular game, know whats going on within the game. Such as who beat who, which clans have closed, which clans are available, etc...sure, there is alot of discussion amongst these community forums, but half of this discussion is pointless, and consists of flaming, "trolling", and ignorance for the most part. Yes there has been serious discussions, and that is a good thing, but do you think it has somewhat ruined the community of pures in a way?

 

The disadvantage, is that it gives people the chance to start arguments, cause drama, and start rivalries with other clans, most of the time it is because of something stupid, irrelevant, and utterly pointless and meaningless. Examples of this is the "Top 10 list", Other clans "Pk Trip Summary Topics", and so on. Alot of people post ignorant posts, and alot of the time it is on purpose, this often results in major flaming, which other people (even people from different clans) join in on the arguments, and getting their clan involved in the drama aswell. It causes alot of hatred towards individuals, and to clans as a whole. Where was the respect that everyone used to have towards each other? Those days have long gone - will they ever come back?

 

There will always be Community Forums from this point onwards, do you think that things will just get better, or get worst? I remember back in the day, it was like all pure clans had respect for each other, and supported each other more, hell, there was even more fun-events back then in which all clans had the chance to participate. Sure, some people will say it's just a game, and that is exactly what it is, but we don't play this game to hate on each other, we play it for fun, don't we?

 

The only people that can fix this, is ourselves, but it seems nobody is willing to step up to benefit the community of pures. We have come a long way, at one point, Pures were never heard of in the game of runescape, we built a base (especially for the old-school pures back in that era), and we continued to grow from this base, and eventually more pures were spotted, and pure clans were formed, at first it was almost like a community of it's own, pures had respect for each other, and instead, most of them disliked people we call "mains", people with defence, now it's more or less pures hating other pures, especially in the clanning communities. We let our pride, and respect for one another, completely slip away, all because of something stupid, something that could have been stopped - but nobody bothered to stop it.

 

Once Community forums came along, Pure Community, Pure Warfare, etc. things had began to change, even at first on PC, people had respect for each other, then the "bad apples" came in and played a role on ruining this tight community that we once enjoyed. It has only grown from there, day by day, week by week, month by month. Do you think clans will ever have the same respect for each other as they once had, or do you think that our community will just keep getting worst, until it comes to the point that it is not even fun anymore, and not even worth logging on to see what has become of the Pure Era?

 

Feel free to discuss, this topic should really be kept flame-free, and troll-free, seeing as that would completely defeat the purpose of this topic. Looking forward to seeing everybody's replies. :cool:

Honestly, things are a lot different than they used to be. Everyone is legitimately hostile now a days. The hostility between pure clans is pretty sickening, berating one another to the point of hatred is simply ridiculous. It's hard to find the source of conflict that started all the flaming/hacking/ddossing. But i can make a simple assumption that is no different from any other arms race. Each clan needs something over another, If they can't compete in game they either turn to hacking ddossing or flaming to compete, or in the case of fatality and a few other clans they turn to in game advantages. Both these things have similar and disastrous effects on the community. Community forums, if monitored correctly can be a fantastic asset to the clan community, it gives what we do meaning and can actually solve arguments of what clan is currently on top. Personally i think these immaturity problems arose after leadership exchanges in multiple clans. You would almost never see James/charles/13th/mahatma/oldpker/dave(cha0s)/omega/tlpranks flame each other. If there was any sort of flame it was always subtle and rarely publicly shown. I know specifically Fatality and Foe had a gag order on members.

MM- Honestly I've always admired there member base, but their strongest asset is their staff who keeps their forums running tip top shape. also, little known fact i have 3000 post count on mm's forums because i won a halloween costume competetion

FI- the love of my life

FOE- unbeatable for so long, I'm legitimately sad that they went down hill as they did, but it happens to everyone.

EOP- honestly i had a good relationship with alot of eop leadership before i quit rs. I have no idea why our fued started or why both sides couldn't come together and get the **** over it. Definitely hurt both clans.

CP-never really understood this clan but they did great in the full out vs us

TLP- i admire this clan for its core of members and great p2p mini crew, when i was a rank it was always fun fighting you in p2p

Z-Liked you guys

NME-Always saw u as our little brother

HI

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Congrats on the forum community you massed up!

We will feed on you this weekend like chris at a pizza buffet, hitting you with all the locs of your unfaithful members.

Sweet trip glad you could squeeze a run in before we could come stomp you.

well its about time we started fighting someone worth our time, it's taken weeks to get a legit fight with all these pre 2k10 relics hiding from us.

Inferior 1 defence scum complaining all over this topic

Fatality isn't the best p2p clan

^^^

**** no one says.

Straight stomped, in america we judge winners based on the score, not by length of participation.

Thanks tlp looked fun!

Expected. It's hard for a mid level clan to fight with the big boys

gf

wat

you guys did work nice job. I'm so rusty i got 1 banged like 9 times

nice job zenith good to see the ddossing didn't effect you.

At least they want to join a clan that actually wins at something.

Sorry for this but....

 

78 vs 95. Never taking that crown from us. :D

yea go **** yourself :verymad: you guys held it down in 08 :thumbsup:

Good to see zenith stepping up to the plate, i really enjoy fighting you guys.

i think some people have to realise it isnt foe getting worse, just other clans have finally started picking their game up and improving their accounts, gear and warring in p2p.

 

its only small scale, no clan bar fi can come anywhere near close to foe when p2p quality is demanded in quantity (high opts)

 

but many clans are gathering 20-30 high level/stat prod accounts who mini and prep often as part of teams or their clan.

i literally thought this would never happen, in my 4 years in and around fatality i never thought we'd reach the same p2p plateau as foe. guess i thought wrong.

looked like a great trip foe!