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please dont quote exxageration to back up facts lol

 

btw u forgot to mention foe, you have more mithril in ur clan than tlp or fi atm. SURPRISE SURPRISE. im not crying. why would you think im crying? im stating a fact not crying about it r[]fl if thats your assumption. you ask a dude whos about to join ur clan if you dont crash... its like me asking the m joining now which apparently dont want to follow the crowd into epidemic if mm crashes more than e. what would my answer be? NO

 

a clan that claims lol? i dare you to pull 100 consecutively f2p and p2p withoiut signups and dude.. big ups it will be unanimous that you are the number 1 clan. you couldn't even beat foe in a matched opts which was proof itself that you were numbers. through out this year, mm has competed with foe enough with around the same number if not they outnumbered mm until recently october and november and mm won their full out vs foe outnumbered ask yourself if you've accomplished anyhting of that sort then you are clearly the number 1 clan. for now, nice numbers on wekeends. :)

 

 

I'm not even going to argue with you as you make no sense whatsoever. Rather not be "UNANIMOUS" and still steal your pixels on a weekly basis.

 

 

SURPRISE SURPRISE r[]fl

^ That really made me laugh.

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I'm not even going to argue with you as you make no sense whatsoever. Rather not be "UNANIMOUS" and still steal your pixels on a weekly basis.

 

 

SURPRISE SURPRISE r[]fl

^ That really made me laugh.

so you having not ever pulled 100 with no signups makes no sense

 

me asking any ex malice that joined mm to compare with epidemic and getting a biased answer comparing to you asking ex malice who joined e makes no sense?

 

you should look back at all the other clans rise to the #1 f2p spot lol. each and everyone of them had critics who weren't convinced enough. mm had theirs, fi, eop, and foe. instead of proving them wrong, you call them excuses which deny you of your #1 spot lol

 

i'd understand why it makes no sense because you can't really argue against it. instead of trying to hard to convince yourself i make no sense just prove me wrong lol.

 

btw when mm had beat foe for a month straight in p2p mm still knew that they werent completely #1 but you guys seem to think your different after just 1 month of wins lol.

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please dont quote exxageration to back up facts lol

 

btw u forgot to mention foe, you have more mithril in ur clan than tlp or fi atm. SURPRISE SURPRISE. im not crying. why would you think im crying? im stating a fact not crying about it r[]fl if thats your assumption. you ask a dude whos about to join ur clan if you dont crash... its like me asking the m joining now which apparently dont want to follow the crowd into epidemic if mm crashes more than e. what would my answer be? NO

 

a clan that claims lol? i dare you to pull 100 consecutively f2p and p2p withoiut signups and dude.. big ups it will be unanimous that you are the number 1 clan. you couldn't even beat foe in a matched opts which was proof itself that you were numbers. through out this year, mm has competed with foe enough with around the same number if not they outnumbered mm until recently october and november and mm won their full out vs foe outnumbered ask yourself if you've accomplished anyhting of that sort then you are clearly the number 1 clan. for now, nice numbers on wekeends. :)

 

We don't uploads vids onto youtube but the few that we have has ended in MM crashing (the views are low since our old yt acc was hacked).

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fRdMTQWWMw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJkDTvDfbVY

 

There has been one single weekend where MM haven't crashed our fights, its not like im guessing i am the founder of Carnage and i lead every Sunday trip.

 

And guess what? Carnage do not flame you we dont even go into your IRC we dont crash your fights yet you continue to crash because we are the smaller clan.

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so you having not ever pulled 100 with no signups makes no sense

 

me asking any ex malice that joined mm to compare with epidemic and getting a biased answer comparing to you asking ex malice who joined e makes no sense?

 

you should look back at all the other clans rise to the #1 f2p spot lol. each and everyone of them had critics who weren't convinced enough. mm had theirs, fi, eop, and foe. instead of proving them wrong, you call them excuses which deny you of your #1 spot lol

 

i'd understand why it makes no sense because you can't really argue against it. instead of trying to hard to convince yourself i make no sense just prove me wrong lol.

 

btw when mm had beat foe for a month straight in p2p mm still knew that they werent completely #1 but you guys seem to think your different after just 1 month of wins lol.

 

LMFAO EXCUSES? MM has been making excuses ever since E started beating them..

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Asher won the topic.

 

Safe, I am willing to argue in a mature way with someone who understands basics of logic.

 

"so you having not ever pulled 100 with no signups makes no sense" ...the truth is we haven't pulled without signups, period. We do them every week. In my opinion they don't influence the pull at all, but if you are right and they do, what's wrong? Why don't you do it? Maybe we're the new clan with the revolutionary idea that will change the world forever? (Exagerating a bit here but you get the idea.)

 

Last time MM had signups we still beat you so how can you still say that we are only good cause of signups? Explain that one to me, then we'll keep going about your other half assed arguments.

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(19:38:44) <Prateek> this is why this clan will never get #1 again :<

(19:38:45) * `Havoc is now known as HaVoC|aWaY

(19:38:45) <+Cake_N_Gravy> we'll have none of that attitude in here

(19:38:48) <Prateek> too many spastics

 

Yeah Epidemic for most respectful clan. Why don't you boot him and let him hop somewhere else. Oh wait you did, and you reaccepted him :>

 

You're not too clued up yourself aye bob?

Yeah because when you go in #Fatality and ask for a mini, you get called a terrorist rofl.

 

And people say Fatality has a nice community? :|

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Bawb you're only using quotes about crashing from people you're on good terms with.

 

I'm asking people who will give me a real answer. Not a totally biased answer.

 

Here.

 

<Bawb[AFK]> Do we crash more than other clans?

<[iR]Tha_H_E_A_T> Not at all

<Bawb[AFK]> What clans crash you more than us?

<[iR]Tha_H_E_A_T> Probably CP

<[iR]Tha_H_E_A_T> DP would be after CP

<[iR]Tha_H_E_A_T> But mostly CP

<Bawb[AFK]> what about like

<Bawb[AFK]> MM/FOE

<[iR]Tha_H_E_A_T> Yeah as we're speaking I have 3 clips of MM crashing

<[iR]Tha_H_E_A_T> I was just looking through my clips and FOE has a couple time and EOP never crashes us

<Bawb[AFK]> Can I quote you cause some idiots are saying how we crash more than other clans

<[iR]Tha_H_E_A_T> Yeah, sure

<Bawb[AFK]> thanks

<[iR]Tha_H_E_A_T> No problem

 

 

Are you going to tell me I'm on good terms with IR?

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I'm asking people who will give me a real answer. Not a totally biased answer.

 

Here.

 

<Bawb[AFK]> Do we crash more than other clans?

<[iR]Tha_H_E_A_T> Not at all

 

Are you going to tell me I'm on good terms with IR?

U DIDNT SHOW MY QUOTE GOD DAMNIT

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Ok sorry for the wait, was just at a New Year's party, and I got another one coming up so I might not read any posts until tomorrow.

 

Ok Bob, all you points are either straw man arguments or sweeping generalizations. I'll just point out each one so you don't keep repeating them in every post. Don't reply to this part, I'm just stating this so that we can get somewhere.

 

First, when your leader and staff members do something, don't try to cover it up by saying it was a member when you know full well it was not. I'm reasonable not to hold your entire clan accountable when a member does something stupid. I've been spammed by members from all different clans including E, and I don't look down on any of the clans because of it. The clan does not hold accountable the actions of single immature members. When it's your leader and staff, it's rather difficult to prove your innocence. For example, if one of the leaders in MM lead the clan to do a ddos and spam attack on you, you probably will like MM a lot less regardless of whether 13th agreed with it or not.

 

Secondly, in the Ascendency incident, you did carry out your threats so don't try to say that nothing was carried out. You know full well that you led your clan to crash us, and your other leader led a spam attack on our IRC while he was flaming and threatening us. In the following week we didn't even go pking, and the week after that we avoided you guys like the plague. We took preventative measures to combat your threats. I don't know what you would have done in the following weeks, but I'm pretty certain that one of your other leaders' intentions were to carry out the threats even further.

 

Thirdly, I know that you guys don't crash the most. You can interview everyone in Runescape all you want. I'm sure if you bothered to interview people in clans that don't like you, the results would be a bit difference. You can interview me even and since I'm apparently super biased against Epidemic, then me saying that you guys don't crash the most must mean something. I'm pretty sure you are just interviewing people just so you can tell them that I'm making up stuff when you made up this entire thing in the first place. The truth is, Epidemic crashes us the second most next to MM. As I have stated numerous times, I am annoyed, but I don't hold it against you if you accidentally crash us. I never said anything about how accidental crashing is wrong. I'm talking about you crashing BH minis and preps, and also intentionally crashing. I don't have a problem if you see us when you were just walking around, but I do have a problem if I can't ever have a clean fight vs EOP and before I get a BH prep or mini vs another clan, I have to make damn sure that Epidemic likes them.

 

Fourthly, for the TGG incident, I understand that Epidemic was not the only clan to blame. I can assure you that I wasn't very nice to EOP either. I'm talking about how Epidemic doesn't even realize that it's wrong and showed a great deal of disrespect on the topic by boasting about it and posting kill pics. I am more than forgiving when people realize their faults and apologize, but it looks like you're the only one that notices something wrong with it.

 

Lastly, I am not accountable for the actions of EOP. I am newly joined member who's starting to regret joining. I do realize their wrongdoings and I am taking action against it. You cannot compare me with the people in Epidemic who think they did the greatest thing in the world by hurting other clans.

 

Now that we got that out of the way, let's focus on what's important and hope no more misunderstandings occur. Just to make things easier for the both of us, I'll just ask specific questions instead of outlining entire situations.

 

The only thing that we established so far is that you feel it's alright to crash preps and minis in BH. In the past, A had several BH minis vs E. Even though E had a lot of enemies, we never saw a single one of them. Personally, I am grateful to those clans that they let us have a BH mini. My question is, are you grateful towards your enemy clans when they do not crash your BH events?

 

About intentionally crashing clans. When you crash a fight, you are hurting both clans. If the clan you didn't mean to hurt crashes you back, what will you do? I don't mean what do you think is right, I'm asking what Epidemic will do when it happens.

 

Now about the Ascendency incident. We believe that if a clan unintentionally crashes us, it is wrong to take action against them. You said that in one of your posts as well, but that is clearly not what you did. My question to you is why did you not forgive us for accidentally crashing you when we forgave you every time you crashes us? My question for your other leader and your staff is where is the eye for an eye when unintentional crashing is paid with a crash, an IRC spamming, and a porn spamming and a credible threat to make us slump/close.

 

As for the TGG incident, my question to you is does the actions of a leader and several staff members hold the clan accountable? My question to everyone else in Epidemic is why is it essential to boast about it and post kills pics and show all sorts of disrespect towards TGG? Does a single one of you realize that maybe you were wrong after you did it, or do you still all believe that you are righteous?

 

@Prateek

Fatality has one of the greatest communities out there. I was very fortunate to experience it first hand before their staff all retired. And yes, you will be seeing a lot of walls of text from me.

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As for the TGG incident, my question to you is does the actions of a leader and several staff members hold the clan accountable? My question to everyone else in Epidemic is why is it essential to boast about it and post kills pics and show all sorts of disrespect towards TGG? Does a single one of you realize that maybe you were wrong after you did it, or do you still all believe that you are righteous?

 

i wasent at the trip, but i heard that the bsing was going on so Epidemic started to just defend themselvs and not die. the reason they "boasted" about it was because they found it funny that Epidemic had to be the scapegoats for a pk trip gone wrong.

 

just my opinon i wasent there.

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Because the amount of people you know relates to the terms you are on with Bob.

 

I love making those sentences.

 

Think about most of you P2P fights, how do they end? In pink.

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When it's your leader and staff, it's rather difficult to prove your innocence.

 

Accusation without any proof.

 

 

Secondly, in the Ascendency incident, you did carry out your threats so don't try to say that nothing was carried out.

 

Accusation without any proof.

 

 

your other leader led a spam attack on our IRC

 

Accusation without any proof.

 

 

and the week after that we avoided you guys like the plague.

 

Exaggerating a bit?

 

 

In the following week we didn't even go pking

 

Exaggerating a bit or are you just stupid?

 

 

We took preventative measures to combat your threats.

 

Exaggerating a bit?

 

 

Thirdly, I know that you guys don't crash the most.

 

Now you say that lol.

 

 

Accusations without any proof will not get you anywhere Ray. I didn't bother to read the rest because it's probably the same crap you have done since yesterday; Use your good english skills to wrongly convinced some idiots that you are right. It's not because my first language isn't english that I can't see your arguments stands on nothing.

 

Honestly you have said so much **** and you speak like it's true and you ask me why I did it. Why don't you start by PROVING me it's true. I'll bring back my old example, your whole clan is associated with the 9/11 terrorist attacks, I have no proof but why don't you tell me why you did that?

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