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Mayor

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  1. No.

     

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

    -Carl Sagan

     

    While there is no evidence that human consciousness would, in any form, live past our bodies, there is no evidence to suggest that it doesn't either. What is human consciousness, is it only matter or are there other forms of substance? Science has no answer as of yet, but it is at least entertaining to consider the possibility that there are.

     

    Ah, the argument from ignorance. While scientist haven't disproved ghosts, they haven't yet disproved the invisible unicorn in my backyard either.

     

    I'm all for entertaining possibilities, but ghosts are just plain nonsense.

     

    I doubt you have any knowledge of this unicorn you speak of, but you propably do have knowledge of your existence and the existence of your consciousness. Science doesn't offer a complete, objective view on the origins of consciousness. Some argue it never will nor could. When it comes to consciousness, it isn't all that unreasonable to assume that all possibilities are still open. Even if you reject the idea of any substance other than matter, quantum physics show us that many unexpected things are possible even in the realm of matter. My hand is at the same time attached to my arm and on the other side of the universe. So is every electron to ever exist. Your intuition counts for very little in the world beneath what our eyes can see, the fundamental mechanics of the universe.

     

    Your argument is very broad, and leaves the door wide open for my invisible unicorn.

     

    Just because we can't prove something doesn't exists, doesn't mean it probably does. The philosophic burden of proof is on the individual making the unfalsifiable claims. In this case, ghosts of the supernatural phenomenon.

     

    I never said that ghosts propably exist.

     

    pos·si·ble/ˈpäsəbəl/

    Adjective:

    Able to be done; within the power or capacity of someone or something.

    Noun:

    A person or thing that has the potential to become or do something.

    Synonyms:

    feasible - potential - probable - likely - contingent

     

    I don't want to debate the existence of ghosts for exactly the same reasoning that you are using here. I haven't made any argument there except the same one that you used, that the existence or nonexistence of ghosts is an unfalsifiable claim. Consciousness is not. We can verify the existence of consciousness, so its nature, or at least the possibility of having information of its nature, is very much a debatable subject.

     

    But if you're not interested in discussing that, we can end this here, because I have no desire to debate rhetorics.

     

    Alright then, let's go off the topic of ghosts and discuss consciousness.

     

    Can we really prove the existence of consciousness? Consciousness and mental activity is a process. Using EEG we have the ability to measure the electrical activity of this process. Something is there, but what is it? Well, the charge produced that makes these electrical signals are from billions of neurons in your brain. These neurons fire off to produce different thoughts and are different for every person. This is where our current understand stops, we don't know much else. Our brain tells us that we exist (cogito ergo sum) and that consciousness exists, but what scientific proof is there of this?

  2. No.

     

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

    -Carl Sagan

     

    While there is no evidence that human consciousness would, in any form, live past our bodies, there is no evidence to suggest that it doesn't either. What is human consciousness, is it only matter or are there other forms of substance? Science has no answer as of yet, but it is at least entertaining to consider the possibility that there are.

     

    Ah, the argument from ignorance. While scientist haven't disproved ghosts, they haven't yet disproved the invisible unicorn in my backyard either.

     

    I'm all for entertaining possibilities, but ghosts are just plain nonsense.

     

    I doubt you have any knowledge of this unicorn you speak of, but you propably do have knowledge of your existence and the existence of your consciousness. Science doesn't offer a complete, objective view on the origins of consciousness. Some argue it never will nor could. When it comes to consciousness, it isn't all that unreasonable to assume that all possibilities are still open. Even if you reject the idea of any substance other than matter, quantum physics show us that many unexpected things are possible even in the realm of matter. My hand is at the same time attached to my arm and on the other side of the universe. So is every electron to ever exist. Your intuition counts for very little in the world beneath what our eyes can see, the fundamental mechanics of the universe.

     

    Your argument is very broad, and leaves the door wide open for my invisible unicorn.

     

    Just because we can't prove something doesn't exists, doesn't mean it probably does. The philosophic burden of proof is on the individual making the unfalsifiable claims. In this case, ghosts of the supernatural phenomenon.

     

    I never said that ghosts propably exist.

     

    pos·si·ble/ˈpäsəbəl/

    Adjective:

    Able to be done; within the power or capacity of someone or something.

    Noun:

    A person or thing that has the potential to become or do something.

    Synonyms:

    feasible - potential - probable - likely - contingent

     

  3. No.

     

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

    -Carl Sagan

     

    While there is no evidence that human consciousness would, in any form, live past our bodies, there is no evidence to suggest that it doesn't either. What is human consciousness, is it only matter or are there other forms of substance? Science has no answer as of yet, but it is at least entertaining to consider the possibility that there are.

     

    Ah, the argument from ignorance. While scientist haven't disproved ghosts, they haven't yet disproved the invisible unicorn in my backyard either.

     

    I'm all for entertaining possibilities, but ghosts are just plain nonsense.

     

    I doubt you have any knowledge of this unicorn you speak of, but you propably do have knowledge of your existence and the existence of your consciousness. Science doesn't offer a complete, objective view on the origins of consciousness. Some argue it never will nor could. When it comes to consciousness, it isn't all that unreasonable to assume that all possibilities are still open. Even if you reject the idea of any substance other than matter, quantum physics show us that many unexpected things are possible even in the realm of matter. My hand is at the same time attached to my arm and on the other side of the universe. So is every electron to ever exist. Your intuition counts for very little in the world beneath what our eyes can see, the fundamental mechanics of the universe.

     

    Your argument is very broad, and leaves the door wide open for my invisible unicorn.

     

    Just because we can't prove something doesn't exists, doesn't mean it probably does. The philosophic burden of proof is on the individual making the unfalsifiable claims. In this case, ghosts of the supernatural phenomenon.

  4. No.

     

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

    -Carl Sagan

     

    While there is no evidence that human consciousness would, in any form, live past our bodies, there is no evidence to suggest that it doesn't either. What is human consciousness, is it only matter or are there other forms of substance? Science has no answer as of yet, but it is at least entertaining to consider the possibility that there are.

     

    Ah, the argument from ignorance. While scientist haven't disproved ghosts, they haven't yet disproved the invisible unicorn in my backyard either.

     

    I'm all for entertaining possibilities, but ghosts are just plain nonsense.

     

     

     

    A few interesting things to think about when considering the existence of ghosts:

     

    Purportedly ghosts have the ‘magical’ capabilities to travel through walls, levitate etc. Powers they didn’t have when they were alive. They move objects all the time – but never get behind the wheels of a car and drive, type a letter on a computer or light-up a Bensons and Hedges. When it comes to interacting with humans all ghosts want to do is scare the **** out of the living in the dead of night. Aimless activity, no-one has been able to detect with any surety.

     

    Ghosts come in one form – that just happens to be human - which is conveniently what we bipedal-chimps want to see, and not say a dead cow hovering at the end of ones bed. Have you ever heard of the legend of oceans being haunted by ghostly plankton?

     

    Ghosts just happen to be nocturnal, preferring night-time to ‘do their thing’. So when you die you suddenly become adverse to daylight – right?

     

    Ghosts are allergic to large crowds. ‘The Ghost of Super Bowl’ or ‘The Ghost of F.A Cup’ – I don’t think so.

     

    If you can walk through walls why don’t you simply drop through the floor as well?

     

    Seeing that potentially we living-humans share the planet with 60 billion spirits, comprising all of humanities dead – where do these hordes of living-dead spend their time? I mean where do they live? Caves? The bottom of the ocean? The stratosphere? Six to a house?

     

    Let me remind you, these quotes are describing the stereotypical ghosts that people believe in today.

     

     

     

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    Usually the ads show things I've been looking at on my computer :ninja:

     

    Depending on Karl's adsense settings, this is probably true lol.

     

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    :teehee:

     

  6. Thank you for taking your time to write this in honor of the kid from your school.

     

    Having for the most part quit, with the occasional logging on to support my clan when I get the chance, I can safely say that I'm more satisfied with the way that I spend my free time. My transition was quick and painless, the result of a full time job.

     

    As a former "addict" though, I have no regrets in my gaming career.

     

    "The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."

    -Bertrand Russell

  7. It takes 8 minutes for the light of the sun to reach our eyes, which means every time you look at the sun, you're observing it as it was 8 minutes ago.

     

    Similarly, if you get a telescope and look at a star that is one light year away, that means it takes one year for the light of the star to reach our eyes and you're looking at that star as it was 1 year ago. To expand, if you get a super telescope and look at a star 100,000 light years away, then you're looking at that star as it was 100k years ago.

     

    What does space-time have to do with religion? Well, what would happen if a telescope cable of reaching a couple billion light years (or approximately when the universe was created) was made? Then we would see the universe as it was a couple billion years ago when the universe was originally created.

     

    We can then observe how it was created, and whether a god or a higher being had a role in creating it or not. To conclude, I know I'm making it sound really simple, but realistically it's our best chance we have at finding an answer using observation and reason, rather than philosophy.

     

    There is no center of the universe, because there is no known end to the universe, only what is observable. You are right about light, but you're wrong about seeing the literal big bang, that is impossible.

     

    However, it is possible to see other things, like the earth being created. At a distance of a little over 4.5-4.6 billion light years away, you could see the gradual creation of the earth. At a mere 65 million light years away, it's possible to see the extinction of the dinosaurs. When the Big Bang occurred, space became completely filled with very hot and dense matter, and it's been expanding ever since, there was no explosion.

    As you stated, the universe is continuously expanding, which suggests it started out from a central origin. Now, you're right, we wouldn't be able to see the big bang, but we would be able to see the initial conditions prior to the big bang, and following that we would see the effects of the big bang (the very hot and dense matter you referred to) and the creation of the known universe.

     

    It would be hard to see the creation of the earth because we're on it. If we were 4.6 billion light years away from earth, then we would be able to look through the telescope and see it forming. The same applies to the extinction of the dinosaurs.

     

    I'm sorry, but you can't simply see the universe before the big bang (there are only theories), and there is no center of the universe.

     

    I hate to get off topic, but we're debating things that can easily be learned by a quick Google search. I'll add some links below as to prevent further aimless arguing.

     

    Center of the Universe:

    http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Rela.../GR/centre.html

    http://www.exploratorium.edu/hubble/tools/center.html

    http://www.universetoday.com/36653/center-of-the-universe/

     

    Before the Big Bang:

    http://science.howstuffworks.com/dictionar...re-big-bang.htm

    http://discovermagazine.com/2004/feb/cover

    http://www.physorg.com/news126955971.html

     

    But hey, scientist could be wrong. Feel free to disprove general relativity on this PW topic if you disagree.

  8. It takes 8 minutes for the light of the sun to reach our eyes, which means every time you look at the sun, you're observing it as it was 8 minutes ago.

     

    Similarly, if you get a telescope and look at a star that is one light year away, that means it takes one year for the light of the star to reach our eyes and you're looking at that star as it was 1 year ago. To expand, if you get a super telescope and look at a star 100,000 light years away, then you're looking at that star as it was 100k years ago.

     

    What does space-time have to do with religion? Well, what would happen if a telescope cable of reaching a couple billion light years (or approximately when the universe was created) was made? Then we would see the universe as it was a couple billion years ago when the universe was originally created.

     

    We can then observe how it was created, and whether a god or a higher being had a role in creating it or not. To conclude, I know I'm making it sound really simple, but realistically it's our best chance we have at finding an answer using observation and reason, rather than philosophy.

     

    There is no center of the universe, because there is no known end to the universe, only what is observable. You are right about light, but you're wrong about seeing the literal big bang, that is impossible.

     

    However, it is possible to see other things, like the earth being created. At a distance of a little over 4.5-4.6 billion light years away, you could see the gradual creation of the earth. At a mere 65 million light years away, it's possible to see the extinction of the dinosaurs. When the Big Bang occurred, space became completely filled with very hot and dense matter, and it's been expanding ever since, there was no explosion.

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