Rage Sniped

Might be a better idea to start a new clan with a new name, since the original Valiance has different founders and some of your graphics are from the original. http://z11.invisionfree.com/Valiance/index.php?

With that in mind, joining MM is probably the best choice as they are clearly #1 F2P at the moment. You can always spy on them for an auto accept into other clans if/when they slump, and if they don't then you'll still be in a top clan.

Adapt or die, this is the way of the pure.

Friends: 5/10 - Can make friends in a clan you join, but it's always nice to join a clan that your friends are in already. Reputation: 9/10 - This was important to me in the past, but reputation in the clan world nowadays is all about how much propoganda can be spread by their rivals. Level Average: 2/10 - Not very important as long as the clan is able to pk together in the wilderness. Defence Average: 5/10 - Wouldn't particularly want to join a clan with a lot of 20+ defence but not overly fussed either seeing as most top clans bring mains now. It's impossible to get the true defence average of any pure clan anyway as defence isn't ranked on highscores and not everyone is P2P so the adventure logs average isn't accurate. Defence Maximum: 0/10 - A clan can have it's maximum accepted level as 30 defence and still have everyone in the clan under 10 defence. The Look: 8/10 - Would prefer to join a clan with sophisticated forums and a nice look about them rather then a clan that looks like as if it was founded on RSB.

Trick question.

Good job FOE, looked fun.

Good luck with the new req's, but aren't they pretty high for your membebase? It just seems it would be a better move to lower reqs until you gain more members and then move up from there.

RIP Epidemic, you achieved a lot in the time you were open. Best of luck to everyone. Edit: Removed quoted bait.

You said yourself that you didn't have permission to use it, and Pat has said that he has not allowed you to use it either. Not sure what we're debating here but if both parties have acknowledged that you weren't allowed to use the banner then isn't it simply a matter of removing it?

Most of the replies here are representative of why the pure community is in such a bad state. Don't have anything against EOP but ripping a banner is pretty pathetic and should be dealt with by other leaders if Goop isn't willing to address the issue.

It looks like its ex-E rather then EOP. Also why block out the name on the picture? That just makes it easier to find out who leaked.

Best of luck to ex-E members, you guys achieved what no other clan has recently in the amount of time you were open. Raed like the first 5 pages and honestly the trolling/flaming is pretty pathetic, especially by MM, it's what is killing the clan world and why it is such a bad environment to be within.

Just compromise and have corrupt off and 1 def armour only, like the good old wars.

If it's going to burst out of nowhere then every reply on this topic will be wrong, as noone will know until it happens! No idea, maybe a new clan that is made suddenly taking on the top 4 or something.