Ayo Loki

?? its funny because fi spent their entire weekend getting pummelled by us +1 for execution

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dat kdr

We weren't at NPO's trip lol...

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This is TLP's TRUE state. This is where they were before their huge hype boost 2 years ago around December. They still have the quality, they just have low pulls to trips again and bigger ones to clan wars. going to be interesting how they settle in or strive to get back up

only counts as boosted KDR if they post THAT KDR as oppose to their ending KDR lol

lol what was that about akicking me and declining preps for months bcuz i made you whip out the tissues in front of a bunch of havoc? its fine lol, 25-0, you are right up there with davld if you get what i mean haha rawrrrrrrrrrrr awww poor kyle! =[ lets see you are the one getting ur members to pm me to try to flame me for you you are the one asking my councils for our ranks/members ip's you are the one everyone on this topic seems to be making fun of xD! its ok lil pal! cheer up!

yh lol we're jealous of your leash and collar ;P Still mad foe took out the TRash and your clan died ;P lol k0 davld im a leader something you will never be again, as you utterly failed and i closed your crap clan twice, i know your biggest goal was to beat foe which you never did while i was leading so it got you a bit butt hurt...it's okay man just quit rs already lol, it's obvious your as obsessed with me as jubjub is lmfao, even coming on my rsc topic and trying to get me to talk to you..like i said just quit rs lol, ur nothing but that guy that spelled his name wrong and led tr into a close good job davld, you beat me lol =[ you made kyle mad before anyone else on this topic l0l

told you not 2 **** with the seagulls how we're taking that 3-0 and never fighting u again cya!

Yah, you didn't mention Kyle because he doesn't make a difference LOL

I say FI has some of the best video intros but Havoc definitely has the best anything made out of PS: sigs, banners, borders, etc. The fact that they're creative is what puts them in a way, beyond higher, superior league than NPO's. Pat is #1

^ So many bad mini warrers are **** riding "1 def dung on sol spec and rest off" they can't even mini right lol

Havoc

FI's unit is **** compared to other clan's unit. Their unit does stomp on some 'good' warrers from other clans, but when they face another unit it's just a faceroll lol (Despite FI's claims of having a 30-2 P2P record or whatever they actually have only defeated us one more time than we have defeated them, we faced the exact same people every mini against them except one where they brought one person in who was actually under lvl 100 for a round) For P2P unit's I would definitely say the best is between FOE, TLP, and Havoc (Clans only) EOP could have a nasty unit if they used a better split of mage/rangers (they have some beast tanks like the ol' swu00o0op and nish back in his prime) but they don't and would generally get stomped vs another unit. For overall P2P Unit's (including teams) it would be pretty weird, for example say NP and TLP or FOE fought each other, would have to see where some people decide to go to fight with to decide who wins

not gonna lie, but that kid is pretty ******* amazing. his tank is mediocre but his positioning and freezing is usually always on point

Prove it. Prove it. I never said because your fights got crashed or because your competitors leaked locs to main clans. Now you're making stuff up. If you actually read the post instead of just looking at the pictures (Like I'm sure you do in class) you would see that I pointed out my reasoning to come to these conclusions: It's obvious to me you have no real argument and you are only hoping to attack my arguments in the hope that your failed logic goes unnoticed. =)

, fighting these clans would mean your clan isn't one of the main HPC's. In fact, according to your argument the ONLY clans who have competed with the best every single weekend would be FOE and MM, the rest have all once and for a while competed with MPC clans when in slump and loss of hype. Again, I suggest you look to take up a new profession if you really are Jonty lol i don't really wanna bomb this topic with our discussion but meh, the fact you misquoted me is kinda annoyin so i guess i'll reply again. My reply said #1 or 2 F2P, not P2P, so i hope that clears that up for you. I said we were top 3 p2p for most of the past 2 years which is correct, as i said TLP do occasionally have a lilguy clan close into them and pull well for a few weeks, and that would be the times that we aren't in the top 3 p2p, but for the MOST of the time (as i said), we are. I don't know where in my comment you got that i said we're better than MM in p2p, obviously when they outpull us by 15 we aren't. And i don't really see your point in your final paragraph. Are you implying that a top 3 clan can only fight the other 2 clans? And if we kill a smaller clan suddenly we're on their level? C'mon man think about it, you misquote me in your first paragraph and then make a nonsensical comment in your second, you're saying i need a new profession but at least i can keep up a coherent argument :\ and @ flash cutter, we had about 57 in our first fight, and just over 50 in our 2nd/3rd fights, any EoP member will confirm that for you. And i'm afraid your estimation on our prep record is also wrong, but then again i wouldn't expect you to know when Fi has declined any prep in either server for the last year because "we don't want to get flamed." :\ You're claiming I misquoted you when you're misquoting me. When TLP were hyped up, the top 3 competitors were MM/FOE/TLP, EOP was the fourth; this is for F2P. In P2P, easily the dominant 2 were TLP/FOE, the third was MM (Who I believe GWAS'd you guys and ran trains on you and even FOE off and on until around March) making you once again fourth in P2P. What is your point about a clan closing into TLP, if a fraction of a clan joins TLP, then I guess a clan closed into you when a fraction of CT joined EOP after closing. The point of my third paragraph was that you were competing with some of these clans, your video will obviously claim you were winning because you crashed a few fights when they had 15~ people left. Keep this in mind, Jonty, I know you're the slowest one in class so I'll try to help you out. TLP also had a few fights vs these clans, they also claimed they won, but fact is they were given a good fight so therefore they are competing with them. Because they are in the same situation as you, you two are either A)A major HPC B)A minor HPC That's ok though Jonty, in life I am a major, you're a minor. Back to class ;P no point in continuing the discussion when you're just making stuff up, the factual basis of your argument is just completely wrong, i don't remember TLP ever beating EoP in the f2p wilderness, at least not in the last 3 years, so you saying they were a consistent member of the top 3 f2p and beating us just doesn't really make any sense. The same with claiming that TLP were ever dominant over MM in p2p for any extended period of time, ever competed with FOE in p2p for more than a few weeks at a time, or were dominant over us in p2p in the last few years, the facts to back up yo **** just aren't there lokz. I think the last paragraph was just a kinda tl;dr flame bait so i don't rly even need to respond to that bit, so i guess our fun lil discussion is done until u can actually prove anything ur saying, otherwise just continue looking the fool :P So your argument NOW is basically blah blah blah no proof no proof Since extended has no definite amount, this can not be proven. I can only give you my opinion of an extended amount of time, that being 2 months. If you want to throw competing with MM in P2P into the mix of being a major top 3 HPC, then EOP isn't one considering they only competed with MM in P2P when FOE was their friends, now EOP seems to have bad KDR nearly every Sunday since the break up. (I'll supply evidence before you even ask ;P): These pics show EOP's KDR going from being decent to horrible randomly. The pics on the right show evidence that support the theory that EOP was only good in P2P when FOE split their MM kills with them, as when FOE dropped EOP they increased by an extreme amount in kills (MM's daeth's leads one to believe they are the cause of FOE's kills for these trips). If you look at the boxed KDR's in the pics to the right, you can see EOP doing worse than these clans that they should not even be in the same league as. If you weren't fighting FOE or MM (because let's face it, you weren't anywhere remotely close to FOE/MM's fights with your kill count), then you had to compete with a lower clan. Now, let's say it was TLP, the first pick to the right shows you losing to them. The second? Well, TLP had a bad trip. This conclusion may lead one to believe that your bad trip was the result of one of the other boxed clans (possibly FI, Havoc, even NME!). Now, I don't think that is consistent at all! If anything, this reminds me a lot of TLP's pattern of doing good for a period of time then having bad trips for a while and switching back and forth! This one is easy, I'll just do what you did: Where is your proof of EOP competing with FOE in P2P for more than a few weeks? Failure to find any would mean that according to your argument EOP isn't a major HPC. Have a good one pal!

can't say much really else i'd be lying. Thanks for helping the 3v3 full out be possible, was fun. Bigger thanks for not being a sore loser in it and staying respectful. Thanks for giving us an actual run in instead of being a ***** like some clans that pull more than us. You guys did anything you saw was achievable within reason, I like that a lot. RIP WAR, hopefully we won't see you guys anymore and you can all move on unlike some of us trapped here

, fighting these clans would mean your clan isn't one of the main HPC's. In fact, according to your argument the ONLY clans who have competed with the best every single weekend would be FOE and MM, the rest have all once and for a while competed with MPC clans when in slump and loss of hype. Again, I suggest you look to take up a new profession if you really are Jonty lol i don't really wanna bomb this topic with our discussion but meh, the fact you misquoted me is kinda annoyin so i guess i'll reply again. My reply said #1 or 2 F2P, not P2P, so i hope that clears that up for you. I said we were top 3 p2p for most of the past 2 years which is correct, as i said TLP do occasionally have a lilguy clan close into them and pull well for a few weeks, and that would be the times that we aren't in the top 3 p2p, but for the MOST of the time (as i said), we are. I don't know where in my comment you got that i said we're better than MM in p2p, obviously when they outpull us by 15 we aren't. And i don't really see your point in your final paragraph. Are you implying that a top 3 clan can only fight the other 2 clans? And if we kill a smaller clan suddenly we're on their level? C'mon man think about it, you misquote me in your first paragraph and then make a nonsensical comment in your second, you're saying i need a new profession but at least i can keep up a coherent argument :\ and @ flash cutter, we had about 57 in our first fight, and just over 50 in our 2nd/3rd fights, any EoP member will confirm that for you. And i'm afraid your estimation on our prep record is also wrong, but then again i wouldn't expect you to know when Fi has declined any prep in either server for the last year because "we don't want to get flamed." :\ You're claiming I misquoted you when you're misquoting me. When TLP were hyped up, the top 3 competitors were MM/FOE/TLP, EOP was the fourth; this is for F2P. In P2P, easily the dominant 2 were TLP/FOE, the third was MM (Who I believe GWAS'd you guys and ran trains on you and even FOE off and on until around March) making you once again fourth in P2P. What is your point about a clan closing into TLP, if a fraction of a clan joins TLP, then I guess a clan closed into you when a fraction of CT joined EOP after closing. The point of my third paragraph was that you were competing with some of these clans, your video will obviously claim you were winning because you crashed a few fights when they had 15~ people left. Keep this in mind, Jonty, I know you're the slowest one in class so I'll try to help you out. TLP also had a few fights vs these clans, they also claimed they won, but fact is they were given a good fight so therefore they are competing with them. Because they are in the same situation as you, you two are either A)A major HPC B)A minor HPC That's ok though Jonty, in life I am a major, you're a minor. Back to class ;P

im sure some of you niggas would skip saturdays trip for this if its boring P; thats what happened last year with the ol' drink un0t

You were competing with Outrage for a while, so that would mean your whole argument defines EOP as one of the lower 'HPC's . You guys are strong, you have a good core. I'm not trying to say you don't, but to rate yourself above TLP is dumb. You guys are in the same level, in different aspects. EOP has always stayed dominant in F2P on Saturdays and most Fridays, TLP has always stayed dominant in Clan Wars Matched fights (even some full outs outnumbered wink hint and all that gay ****). Both, however, have proven to be a forced to reckon with against FOE/MM at different times. This is, what everyone is claiming (kind of like an excuse) what FI apparently has: Hype. I'm talking about on mandatory trips which is, for nearly all clans, the most important event(s). Sure a few times a year TLP pull well to a Sunday trip and fight FOE, but consistently EoP are competing with FOE/MM, something TLP never have and probably never will do. Yes, alright. Sure a few times of the year EOP pull well and fought FOE and MM, but there was also times where EOP had to compete with Outrage, due to MM/FOE pulling 90s+ while EOP only pulled 50-60. The only times we ever "competed" with Outrage were in P2P, and that was not because our pulls were too low, but because they got a fullout with us, cancelled it on the day it was going to happen, then proceeded to talk a lot of **** to us about a midweek fight we had at gdz. Then we bullied them on Sunday's for about 2 weeks and they made a public apology. We've been either #1 or #2 f2p for the last 2 years and in the top 3 in p2p for most of the last 2 years, you can' t really deny that, unless you're still angry because we 3-0'd you in a few preps and you got angry and said you'd never prep us again because we got veng'd ;p I'm guessing you weren't at Fi's saturday trip where you got 3-0'd by us, despite having more opts than us in the 1st fight and similar in the 2nd/3rd, and despite us already having fought 3 clans on 1 inventory when you tried to catch us off guard in the 3rd fight ;p Get your clan used to pulling more than 35 to trips for a while and practise competing at larger opts before you start talking trash about bigger clans organization, because you just look silly :P. Pathetic, I thought I could have a normal discussion with you, but as always you give up and decide to attempt a flame lol Your argument is as stable as your clan, which is built on sand. So, according to your fresh and new argument you have been #1 and #2 even when "Sure a few times a year TLP pull well to a Sunday trip and fight FOE," was happening, you were still #1 and #2? So I guess you're saying you're better than MM despite never fighting them virtually at all in P2P (especially since you guys broke up with FOE). The reason why you were fighting Outrage was because of the fact that they were your competition. How is this proven? Like this: In this video, you CLEARLY fight clans BESIDES Outrage, problem? Well... It's Havoc,WAR,Z, and IR. According to your earlier argument: , fighting these clans would mean your clan isn't one of the main HPC's. In fact, according to your argument the ONLY clans who have competed with the best every single weekend would be FOE and MM, the rest have all once and for a while competed with MPC clans when in slump and loss of hype. Again, I suggest you look to take up a new profession if you really are Jonty lol

By Main Clan, you mean Serenity. By Havoc crashing, you mean this: (14:11:37) -[Z]Zack- hit cp already - (14:11:38) -[Z]Zack- hit cp already - (14:11:39) -[Z]Zack- hit cp already - (14:11:39) -[Z]Zack- hit cp already - (14:11:39) -[Z]Zack- hit cp already - (14:11:39) -[Z]Zack- hit cp already - (14:11:39) -[Z]Zack- hit cp already Log started: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:12:04 Pacific Standard Time (14:12:04) <[Z]Zack> lure em out for us (14:12:05) <[Z]Zack> i'll pay u (14:12:06) <[Z]Zack> 3m (14:12:14) <AYo|LoKi> they logged out (14:12:15) <AYo|LoKi> cuz we gwas'd them (14:12:31) <[Z]Zack> gimmie der locs (14:12:40) <AYo|LoKi> they LOGGED OUT Log ended: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:55:45 Pacific Standard Time

You were competing with Outrage for a while, so that would mean your whole argument defines EOP as one of the lower 'HPC's . You guys are strong, you have a good core. I'm not trying to say you don't, but to rate yourself above TLP is dumb. You guys are in the same level, in different aspects. EOP has always stayed dominant in F2P on Saturdays and most Fridays, TLP has always stayed dominant in Clan Wars Matched fights (even some full outs outnumbered wink hint and all that gay ****). Both, however, have proven to be a forced to reckon with against FOE/MM at different times. This is, what everyone is claiming (kind of like an excuse) what FI apparently has: Hype. I'm talking about on mandatory trips which is, for nearly all clans, the most important event(s). Sure a few times a year TLP pull well to a Sunday trip and fight FOE, but consistently EoP are competing with FOE/MM, something TLP never have and probably never will do. Yes, alright. Sure a few times of the year EOP pull well and fought FOE and MM, but there was also times where EOP had to compete with Outrage, due to MM/FOE pulling 90s+ while EOP only pulled 50-60. That's insanely incorrect. Most clans, such as FOE/FI take advantage of having higher pulls and ONLY put their good people in the first two rounds, once they ensured a 2-0(1) victory, they allow their lower members to go in third round. In their topics, they describe it something like this: "We decided to put no ranks in for this round and let some of our members(lower ranks) call. They did extremely well considering now being at a level disadvantaged[b/](same combat average now, as oppose to out leveling the losing clan)." This is, in the contrary, why smaller clans have it harder in Clan Wars compared to clans who pull more.

You were competing with Outrage for a while, so that would mean your whole argument defines EOP as one of the lower 'HPC's . You guys are strong, you have a good core. I'm not trying to say you don't, but to rate yourself above TLP is dumb. You guys are in the same level, in different aspects. EOP has always stayed dominant in F2P on Saturdays and most Fridays, TLP has always stayed dominant in Clan Wars Matched fights (even some full outs outnumbered wink hint and all that gay ****). Both, however, have proven to be a forced to reckon with against FOE/MM at different times. This is, what everyone is claiming (kind of like an excuse) what FI apparently has: Hype.