`Rage

Cp's goal is just to be good at what mattered in the past which was 1 on 1 fights, thats why its just been catering more to prep wars/pcl than to clusterfucks on saturdays

i mean when i keep hearing "lack of numbers" in top 10 lists i just pretty much understand any idiot clan can mass recruit but so can the top 5 clans other than mm/foe, but whats the point if you're not gonna get much 1 on 1 fights on Saturdays, opts go to waste and its not worth ruining the quality of ur ml for

i think i can come up with statistics right out of my ass and say the average clan gets 1 legit 1 on 1 fight out of 3-5 attempts on Saturdays

even after all this time ive been gone, its just been the same old deal cept that the old clans who you actually could get one vs one fights and didn't crash much like ir, dv, malice, dy are all gone and replaced with clans who are willing to crash

that includes clans who changed their mind due to passing times and now crash so now EVERYONE crashes and everyone doesn't give a **** but ironically that's because they cant get 1 on 1 fights and its just a mass chain-reaction that cant be helped right now

i think the standard of having fun *should* be preps, pcls, and minis as much as i hate to say it, but obviously that has never happened before

the true solution is to delude ur clan into thinking a clusterfuck is fun and being apart of them, aswell as clearing other clans despite being the crashing clan who came in last which is you know what

im a patient guy and so has my clan been but you would think if any1 in the past came to today's pure world they'd be calling us a bunch of masochists for dealing with Jagex's incompetence that we have 5 worlds to pk in today

Colts should win this one

I just love how the fair weather bandwagon saintfags question the colts "desire to win" and call peyton "boring", the guy does 100 funny ass commercials, he doesn't have "fire" but he shows it when through his game and his work ethic, cmon not many quarterbacks are fun to watch off or on the field in the first place

"hurr durr Peyton boring saints should win because Katrina", i really do hope my colts win because the saints team have had the sad luxury of having too many idiot fans that don't know **** about football and everyone get's off their bandwagon next year so they can play without that ******** since i know once they lose half their "fans" will disappear

and i thought patfags were worse, i'd rather go to an eagles game alone in january than be a true saintsfan in the dome

and the corrupt pures with the first pick in the PW draft(traded from Dp for drunk, honey and chain), select tim tebow, quarterback, from the university of florida

Epidemic leadership was 5 times better than Dv's, pressure or not.

 

lol@DVleadership

 

 

 

Slumping pressure, nor MM, made Epidemic realize that this game is **** and not worthy of spending precious time on, it's just a realization that any half-witted human comes to eventually.

 

 

Kids who play this game will grow up sometime and come to their senses aswell, it's only a matter of time.

but u guys didn't think about the kids!

the refs

i dont know if u can say "burst into the scene" it'd have to be some new unnameable clan, clans we already are familiar with u can tell a rise gradually by how they've been doing

i would've named tgg but they closed, can we really say a new clan can be so successful without it having a previous history anymore? it hasnt happened in ever, really don't think i can happen again the way things are

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Well, can't say much about E personally but they were a pretty good clan that in my mind were like our brothers, not only because atleast 20-25 ex-cp including offiicals were E but just the way they were built, not relying on publicity, popularity but just having quality organization even with 'low levels'

I kinda understood why you guys decided to close, still i mean, pretty abrupt closing, this didn't seem planned neither did u talk to the members

Great to have moved on, takes alot guts to do that, something i can't do myself with Cp so best of luck in life if this isn't some master god tier work of a troll

great, well this doesn't help my previous post when i said there should be more clans in the pure community since now one it's best ones just closed and man this really isn't going to help how things are, don't know how to look at it

All i gotta say is, get yo popcorn ready

I think the main point people are missing is that pure clans are hyper competitive now, where u just do anything to be the best, if that means bringing invites, having as many 20 def people as u can yet staying within the ultimate bound of being classified as a "pure clan"

Mains went through the same exact thing, no1 returned, it was unheard of, then it just became the way to do it and same with having uber maximized tank stats with staffs, pizza methods etc it just was unacceptable and odd at first but the idiots who kept losing figured it out

Now every pure clan has vent, we got our own way to manage our clans through clan chat now and the only way that'll work out for the better is if the clans who don't agree, buy into those methods so there is probably more competition instead of those same clans shunning away if not using propaganda to put a clan down when that's the most ignorant thing u can do when u dont wanna finish business in a run-in or war

Just going to really be up to how leaderships represent their clans and relay the message to not be a whiny sore loser clan and find a way to beat that clan instead and maybe those standards are made acceptable when we have more clans to be in this competitive pool in the long run, say a year at least

It really isn't so bad right now really, but it could definitely be a lot better when I remember fighting 4-5 different clans a pk trip rather than the same 1-2 clans multiple times which makes the experience boring

I think 4-5 pure clans that are nameable have closed last year so obviously that has made our community technically smaller as if we were complete continents now instead of individual nations

The reason the top 5 clans can pull so much, is because when a clanless pure decides to join a clan, they look at the top clans

Very true, the lack of knowledge really doesn't help, i mean some guys come in our irc thinking were #1 clan lol, and i just play along with em and it doesn't seem to make a diff if i tell em were not

Somebody posted the exact same topic two years ago, so I'll just say you'll all be in the same ****** position.

2 years ago i know for sure only 1-2 clans were able to pull 80 consistently, but now every1 can do it without trying

What do you think might be the future of pure clans in a year or 2 from now?

All I've been seeing lately is the massive pulls of 80+ for the top 5 clans while the "rest" which might consist of just 3-4 clans pull 50 or less(which to me still would be a damn decent pull a year ago)

What caused this imbalance?

To me, I think it's been all about leadership and how much they're willing to do everything they can effort wise to just have a large member base without having any other clan telling them what is right or wrong to do

And to the clans who haven't been doing "what works now" in the past few months have either closed or just declined really bad because that's how things are done now from what I've understood

So why do you think things are like they are now instead of the 10-12 competitive clans we really had back even a year ago?

I personally prefer being apart of a big happy family now but sometimes u just remember how u pked with 30 people and had the best trips ever

Let's not name clans or people here

CP vs TH

 

was in TH at the time of the rivalry

in CP now :P

**** dude, didn't know you were in th, well now i can justify calling you gay :biggrin:

I haven't heard much from Tlp, but wow even as inactive as i've been i can say they're nice guys

Tgg seem like really cool guys too

Malice before they closed had this sense of knowing how to flame, but in just a competitive sense rather than going on top clan list and calling the other clan and basically crying and what we cant mistake that for with "flaming"

Malice didn't make excuses when they lost

That's probably how you can tell a clan overall is mature, i mean, u can't base a clan as mature with who's in the clan, it's just more of how the leaders represent themselves here, by how they approach the competitive atmosphere we got here

What shows a whiny and immature clan is one who just makes excuses of why they lost a fight ,"you had friends, "oh no you brought that 1 40 def guy to a war that changed the whole outcome", "oh no u got invites, were mad because we still lost even opts when invites should be noobs who never warred before"

etc etc. but u get my point

great job guys, i really should drop by after u know what

Back then, clans were isolated if not restricted to knowing about what when on with other pure clans through what u saw on their forums, so you wouldn't usually go their forums to go talk **** and whatever u said on ur youtube vid or a topic on ur forum was 100% true to your clan

So you had no pressure or criticism from anyone else, that was the best part of clanning back then

Eventually pure clans whored themselves to structure, in terms of what we saw the main clan community having ex: community forums, honor system, organization, etc.

Before we sold ourselves to those standards, we were careless level 40 pures who pked in 10-20 man teams and teleported and we thought we would never ever reach the point we were in now and that ignorance really gave us a chance to experience something new and better every week and even every year and that's why it was fun to see how we "evolved" from that

Now that my clan and the guys i've been around with, and that the pure community in general has been there, done that...It's just not new or exciting anymore

PC was one of the reasons the pure community just got a little serious, but there's other reasons why we think the pure community "sucks"

Nice job guys

Raimus from KT, i just brung up an ancient name huh, damn he was good with writing so i always thought that was important

5-6 relevant if not namable active clans now today is pretty sad to see

It's not that the new generation of pures know what clans to join or not join, it's how recycled our pure community has become

I know my clan doesn't have recycled members, were probably the only clan who has nearly 90% new guys who've never been in a clan before, probably eop comes 2nd on that not sure, but it's pretty common for people to say that Cp was their first pure clan

If you take a look at how every other clan has guys who've been in 1, 2, or even 3 clans before, then you get my point

I'm not saying anything negative on that but, those guys were probably in the clans who just dropped off the map for good, not gonna name em but u probably know

Those guys probably account for 40% of the number of people in clans now, i mean, u can say that was about 3-4 clans u can make up with that, who could probably pull 30-40 to trips and u would have that competition of a top 10

There's probably just a top 5 or 6 now, the old clans who have always been up there are still up there and it just seems to me it can stay that way for a good long time

Just kinda becoming like mains, the way they have their set up, anyone can beat anyone, everyone pulls as much as everyone, especially in matched opts, the only thing that isnt the same is the amount of pures for obvious reasons

So what bothers you the most in terms of what other clans as a whole do as a community?

To me, it just bothers me when we stick our noses where we shouldn't, and that's how other clans decide to lead their clan

We tend to flame the most about how the other clan manages if not decide what their clan chooses to do

I'm talking about whether a clan allows addy, whether a clan cares about soloing honor, whether a clan decides to allow 20 defense guys or not

There's much more things we choose to target, but im just scraping the surface here

I know that's a part of the game now, i mean, the immaturity but i still think that when you stick your nose where you shouldn't that's the bottom line, it's not your business, it really shouldn't be anyone elses business on the decisions the clan's leadership does

Why don't clans worry about what their own clan is doing than what the other clan chooses to do? is it insecurity? is it part of the whole competition spectrum here? i don't know, but to me, that's pathetic when other clans flaming about what other clans choose to do on their own

Instead of flaming and using what the other clan does as an excuse to why you lost, then why don't you instead of take advantage of it?

Not gonna name any clans but i know one clan now still is in the butt of that "oh they're just massing level 60s in mith' yet they're still beating that clan week in and week out aswell as everyone else, just like how we did it back in the pcl days and were in the butt of that trope aswell

If they are level 60's in mith that mass recruit, why can't you win? instead of using that an excuse why don't u make it your advantage?

That's what they choose to do, either find a way to beat that or resort to that yourself

But that's just a small if not a shabby example of how that type of thinking has become a cancer to the pure community

That's why we only have 10 clans today, instead of the 20-30 clans we thought we would have by now 4-5 years later, because we shun away or disrespect the way other clans decide to have their communities and establish this and that and all those other concepts etc etc.

Because even years before we had that, but clans would be more resourceful about it and do something about it instead of bitching about it when they lost and that just made the pure community just more active if not more engaging to be a part of

So that's really bothered me the most when people think they know your clan, and try to talk about your clan, the way you lead it aswell, all you get is ******** and maybe that's why we have thought the pure community was dead but that's not really true, were still here, clans that shouldn't be here are still here and it's all just a mentality we have when standards change and we don't

instead of being mature and more open minded because we are just pures that think that mains are not human people themselves, we have what we have now game wise and if not community wise aswell and people have thought collectively it really isn't what it was before because we've become so close minded, spiteful and ignorant

So what else bothers you guys the most?

lets not name clans or people

was a nice speech shame u deleted it

planning on making my own thread about it

nvm

had to lol

son is that you?

e - OWNAGE MONSTERS

mm - O WOW GET BETR NOOBS

eop - PWNING FOE

foe - GETTING PWNED BY EOP

dp - OWNING DA BELOW

cp -OWNED FI CAN TAKE OVR DP

fi - OWOW GET BETR

tlp - THIS TIME DONT TEAM WITH DV

dv - LOL

m - SLUMPITY SLUMP I WANNA SEE U OWN EVERYONE!! GET BETR

tgg - ORLLY? DO GOOD BOIZ

ir - L-O-L LAUGH OUT LOUD

 

 

me like boiz