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Good job on holding your Kings of P2p title for almost 2 years now.

P2P this weekend - 1. Foe - heard to beat the hell out of everyone. 2. Tlp - gave foe 2 good fights but got crashed by mains. 3. Mm - your fight got crashed but I except you to bounce back next week. 4. E - still holding up in P2p. 5. C - could be E if they had more numbers. F2p - Not even going to bother with it.

More recent perhaps? Foe down 14 in this one. btw no trees here.

http://pure-warfare.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5248

Nice troll Eop. We all know what happened to you when Foe is down 5.

Honestly, I am disappointed was looking forward to watching 2 clans fights. Expected more from Eop but I guess their leadership has changed. Back in old wild full out would be something to look forward too. Rather than be turned down because of a "Top Clan List".

I currently, have a Pure with. Attack - 40 Strength - 60 Defense - 1 Range - 93 Magic - 82 Hit points 76 Can't get a pic before my computer won't let me. What am I looking for? - I am looking for a Strong P2P but also knows what their doing in F2P. So, that I can improve as a Pure also would like a "stable" clan. Strong community and have ventrillo or Teamspeak. Reason for low level clan? - I feel that I am not ready to take on a large clan at the moment.

Friday Predictions - 1.Final Ownage Elites - They will most likely be in P2p. 2.Mayhem Makers - will be looking for Foe in P2p. Saturday Predictions - 1. MayhemMakers - will continue to hunt down E and hold #1 F2P. 2. Epidemic -now they have to fight off Mm and possibly Foe, if they have a good pull. 3. Final Ownage Elites -Depending on Pull they can hold this spot from Eop and maybe even fight E. 4. Eruption Of Pures -will be looking for revenge against Foe. 5. Corrupt Pures -could contend with Eop if numbers are close and will hold #5 F2P against Dp. Sunday Predictions - 1.Final Ownage Elites - Kings Of P2P. 2.Mayhem Maker - will give Foe a run for their money. 3.The Last Pure - Probably try to crash again. 4.Epidemic - will try to push into Top 3 in P2p but most likely won't. 5.Carnage - looking to bring E hope of being a top clan back down. (No Offense)

Sup. :biggrin:

Lol I remember when the #1 F2P clan would fight anyone regularly of rules or location. But now the "#1 F2p clan" doesn't take chances and plays it safe, talking **** about other clans and when it comes time to prove themselves they back down and say "See you Saturday". Honestly, if you are so confidence in your clan why not fight? Only shows you fight when you have everything in your favor.

Personally I think Numbers > Organization > Levels. Numbers give the biggest advantage especially when you have 15-20 members more, but if the numbers are close like 10 or lower, then levels and organization can bridge the gap of numbers. Without Organization you can't possibility hope to win especially outnumbered. Levels do help but not if the person has no clue what to do or if the numbers are not in your favor, he/she would panic and most likely just be dead weight. F2p Predictions 1.Mm 2.E 3.Foe 4.Eop 5.Dp

Bump.

2 month prediction - F2P 1.Mm - They will recover their #1 F2p and continue to beat anyone below. 2.E - I think their numbers will begin to drop but not enough to drop below #2. 3.Foe - I think they will recover lost ground and stay until E numbers drop. 4.Eop - I think their member will grow tried of sign up or be booted and numbers will drop. 5.Cp - I think they will continue to have competition with Dp but still be on top. 6.Dp - They will improve but not enough to overtake Cp 7.Tgg - They will improve and their numbers will grow. 8.Fi - They will start having a competition with Tgg. 9.Tlp -They will continue to focus only on P2p and drop in F2p. 10.Ir - Their numbers will began to grow and they will come out of their slump. P2p- 1.Foe - going to hold this but have the every so often lost to Mm. 2.Mm - will mostly lose to Foe but upset they every so often. 3.Tlp - will began to drop in P2P if they don't have a good pull. 4.E -will stay focusing more in P2P and might even take #3 P2P. 5.C - they will continue to hold #5 but never have enough to go farther. 6.Dp -will hold this spot until their newer member improve in P2P. 7.Fi - they will be focus on F2P but they will hold this spot. 8.Ir - with some more numbers they could over take Fi but most likely stay here.

Members list size- Date January 14th 1.Epidemic - 150 - http://runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=epidemic 2.Mayhem Makers - 146 - http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=mayhemmakers 3.Final Ownage Elites- 115 - http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=clanfoe 4.The Last Pures - 115 - http://runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=tlp_rs 5.Desstrutive Pures - 108 - http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=destrucpures 6.Eruption Of Pures - 102 - http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=oldpk3r 7.Fatality - 91 - http://runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=rsfi 8.Carnage - 76 - http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=Carnage_ML 9.The Golden Gods - 74 - http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=tggclan 10.Intense Redemption - 70 - http://runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=teamim

I have been seeing some clans argue about which is more important and personality I can see why both sides have something to argue about. Full outs - -Its like the super bowl to a certain degree, this is where everything is on the line and you only get 1 shot. (even though its usual best out of 3 if in clan wars but in Pvp/Bh you only get 1) - Another important reason this is usual going to play out in the longer run."Momentum" (example- Mm beats foe in F2p full out be doesn't start beating on trips till 2-3 weeks later.) - This also shows how your clan does when you are at your best. Pk Trips - -Yes, it is important to be consistent on pk trips other wise clans will think "why did you even win that full out?"(Maybe we should Full out them?) -Another reason this usual help improve numbers over the long run. ( a slower way gaining "Momentum") -Also if you don't win in pk trips you will slowly lose numbers over time. (what happens when you lose) Please no flaming anyone for their opinions. Also give a good reason why you chose either pk trips or full outs.

Bump. :banana:

P2P Predictions- If you don't agree with my constructive criticism, then don't read it. 1.Final Ownage Elites - Even though Mm has gotten the better of you I don't see why people are ranking them above you since Foe is most consistent in P2p. After talking with some of your members, only thing your doing wrong is learn to pick the right fights and don't Dd in mult. 2.Mayhem Maker - Even though you are #2 in P2p you have the potential to be #1 if you can beat Foe on a consistent bases. Just keep your numbers up and just keep doing what you doing. 3.The Last Pures - Honestly I don't know why you are here. You manage to stay quiet for a while and couple weeks later you decide to try and fight Mm or Foe. Just be more consistent in general, because if you don't I can see E taking your spot very soon. 4.Epidemic - I know a lot of the other clans give you **** for having one of the lowest Magic averages. But if you can pull at least 70+ you can take down Tlp. Other than that I suggest you ask other clans to fight you on the weekdays for practice so your members get a hang of P2p. 5.Carnage - You know how to P2p, there is no doubt about that, but you need more members to retake #4. I suggest you try to get your clan name out there so more people are likely to join your clan. 6.Destructive Pures - I think what's hurting you the most is the majority of your members don't know how to P2p. Try setting up some fight against other clans in P2p and see if things don't improve. 7.Fatality - I know for a fact you can P2p but you numbers again, is the problem. Beside your pk trips you are relatively inactive and don't have much going on the weekdays. Try fighting some big name clans in F2p or P2p and maybe you can really get out of your old leadership shadow. 8.Intense redemption - Your biggest problem is that you have no one to compete with in P2p the lower clans don't want to P2p, so you are left with either running from a bigger clan of dying to them. Honestly, unless the other clans give it a shot you are stuck here.

F2P Predictions- If you don't agree with my constructive criticism, then don't read it. 1.Mayhem Makers - they will most likely have another good pull and beat all below. The only thing they have to worry about is holding this spot. 2.Epidemic -Will also have a big pull but will find that numbers only give them so much. Also If they don't watch it Foe might be on their tale in F2p. 3.Final Ownage Elites - I got a feeling that they might have a good pull in F2p, as holiday breaks are done. If they can pull at least 80+ they can might even be able to take on E. But numbers is your biggest problem ,F2p you need numbers to be close or its just suicide. 4.Eruption Of Pures - will have a nice pull but Foe will bridge the number gap and Eop will find themselves back at #4. And the same thing that happen to them in their matched opt war. 5.Corrupt Pures -Will take control of this spot and maybe start competing with Eop when numbers are there. But until then they would be better off fighting Dp or Fi. 6.Destructive Pures - Will lose their momentum but hold #6 with their numbers. I don't see you breaking back in the Top 5. Best thing to do is encourage you members to raise their "quality" aka training stats and asking clans for fight on weekdays for practice. 7.Fatality - To be honest, I think this is it for you. I don't see you reclaiming your "Top 3" spot ever again. Your older members got you to the top 3 but now they are gone along with your chances of becoming your former selves. Your new leadership needs to step up and start having fights with Dp outnumbered or not. 8.The Last Pures - Struggles in F2p and will most likely stay in this spot for a long time. You are know for your P2p but to be a "Top Clan" you need both. I think you should get to teaching your members the basic of F2p wars and apply it on pk trips. 9.The Golden Gods - After your reopening you haven't been able to get the number pull that you uses to have seeing how you barely manage to pull 30-35 out of a 70+ member list. But you can pull this around by having some fight will Tlp and Ir. 10.Intense redemption - Even though most clans think your going to die out, but you might be able to pull it around if you can get your member to want to go on your pk trips. I suggest having some fights with Tgg.

Bump.

lol my bad but to said that Eop (out of nowhere) are better than Tlp is just retarded. Eop at best would be like #7 in p2p. P2p 1.Foe 2.Mm 3.Tlp 4.E 5.C 6.Dp 7.Eop 8.Ir

LOl Eop doesn't P2p. Overall 1.Mm 2.Foe 3.E 4.Dp 5.Tlp.

Switch Foe and Mm in P2p and you got it.

Wow was impressed when I saw the topic but then I saw that Vh was limited to 1 def gear. Gj Tlp, I guess. :confused:

Agreed

Mm E vs TLp P2p full out.