Jack-x2yz

sinse the start of that certain other website, there has been alot less flaming. Every one that traditionally argues with each other are on different forums.

Link them to this topic and just say "all we ask for is a huge green field with nothing on it..." surly a good company would be able to create that without much hassle... Then again this is Jagex were talking about.

Lol. This is true...

It just sounded from the way you wrote it that you were declining on that basis. I misinterpreted what you said, my bad.

You're absolutely right, FOE's every loss can be narrowed down to a single deciding factor... spies! Thanks for clearing that up Walli *giggle* gotta admit, it is a bit of a dumb reason to decline a fullout war, but I do agree with you on the larger map front, although I'd say classic just because of personal preference.

The rules sound ok, but it would make more sense on classic, as classic is larger and requires tactics to win as well... Although I think the idea was to replicate fighting at dwarfs!

MM because of Mister X Man Every other clan because of MM

Im aware lol, members are all required to record all of their fights now, which will benefit because it will create a faster production of CPR pk vid 1 lol. So you can't pk without vidding? Whaaaattt? So all of your 49 members have cams do they? Well I certainly wouldn't be able to join CPR then, my computer is too **** to be able to hand anything more then rs itself. So when a good member gets caught teleing, you ask him for evidence that he got pjed, he's like ****.....forgot to put my cam on. Then what? There not required to cam, just there not allowed to teleport or PJ without evidence of the other person teleporting or pj'in them. Vidding is the most effective way to prove some one PJ'd you/tele'd from you. It's not mandatory to vid though. Sorry to bang on but....if you follow that logic through that effectively means you can't tele without vidding (sucks to be you non vidding members) because you would have no way of proving your innocence after. So many grey areas. You can prove some one teleported with a picture ^.^, it's hard to prove some one pj'd you without a picture though.

Im aware lol, members are all required to record all of their fights now, which will benefit because it will create a faster production of CPR pk vid 1 lol. So you can't pk without vidding? Whaaaattt? So all of your 49 members have cams do they? Well I certainly wouldn't be able to join CPR then, my computer is too **** to be able to hand anything more then rs itself. So when a good member gets caught teleing, you ask him for evidence that he got pjed, he's like ****.....forgot to put my cam on. Then what? There not required to cam, just there not allowed to teleport or PJ without evidence of the other person teleporting or pj'in them. Vidding is the most effective way to prove some one PJ'd you/tele'd from you. It's not mandatory to vid though.

Well I'm telling you we have no reason to hide any of the fight, we dominated from start to finish. Yes there were Eop there, but not because we wanted them to be, more because they dont like MM much. Probably the same reason we had Fi and HF ******* with us constantly. The whole concept of a draw is ridiculous anyway, how can you draw a fight? Sounds like something you would say to lil guys to keep them happy. Yes CPR, Ch and C beat us a couple of weeks back, well done. If you are still there after 5 minutes, what are you doing? Does it take 5 minutes to loot? I don't understand what you are complaining about? Edit: Last post on topic from me. Well the most important parts of a fight are the start and the end. You seem to not have any pictures or video of the first 5 minutes. Just seems a bit suspect to me. If you were dominating there as well why wouldn't you include it? But w/e. A fight can be a draw when EOP HF FI AF and mains come and join the fight with enough people to influence the fight. MM should have turned on FI and FOE should have turned on EOP. Also aboutt he CCC fight, I'm complaining because FOE tried to spin that into a win, funnily enough in there video of that fight they didn't include the start of the fight ether... Last Im going to post on this as well... Stop the return fights, declare a full out already.

60+ matched opt prep, would be frikin sweet to watch! Also should be CLW, PVP would be too messy.

@manana well the whole first half of the fight is missing... When it starts up there are bones all over the place and both MM and FOE are spread all over the place, that only happens at the end of a fight or the start of a return fest. N last week it seemed to be slightly cleaner MM were still outside with a lot of opts FOE were inside. Also "we tried to end a returning fight early" 2hrs in isn't exactly early, if you rolled them in the first fight, then refused to fight there return group then I'd say fair enough... But you didn't you tried to pull a cheap win after the fight had dragged on. N I'm saying it was a draw because you did have EOP with you, if you called them or not they did have a considerable amount of people with them fighting for FOE as FOE members. FI were there as well, AF were killing anyone that pouched up, there are also a few pictures of HF hanging around. Too many other clans intervened for anyone to claim a win. Both clans need to stop these return fights. If you get cleared, dont mass up to 30+ returners then re rush... Thats what causes these disputes in the first place. Remember 3 weeks ago when it was FOE vs CPR + CH + C, we cleared you 100% making you run into single. Then you remass and rerush 5 minutes later when we were all low on food/looting. It's returning like that that ruins all the fun. @walli, you cant claim that fight as a clean win can you? Can you honestly say yesterday was a completely clean win? Oh and considering I am trying to say you were not doing to well at the start of the fight, and that is why it's cut saying "it showed all the key points and us clearing area after area." just reiterates my point. The start of a fight should always be included in a video, not doing so is ridiculous. @Zany, im not saying that FOE teamed with EOP, but EOP teamed with FOE.

Lololololol, hi again Jack. MM won no part of that fight lmao, it was a complete walk over. It went near safe zones because we chased MM all over the wildy. Any crashers weren't invited by us and we certainly didn't want them there, why would we, it was free loot as far as I'm concerned. ****, just join MM already, you are clearly more passionate about them then your own clan. Oh and talking about member numbers on PW, really? Really? Im just going off this video Normally when people don't include the whole fight it's because they lost that bit. What I said is true though, you both need to stop these returnfests. They never produce a clear winner, mains all ways comes to rag them by the looks of it members from both clans dont enjoy them. There just bad all around, if FOE won at corp don't chase MM members down, if MM won at corp don't chase FOE down... Simple, just log out when the other clan has ~10 left on the field.

Firstly mad respect to TLP for putting up a fight with 20 less guys, most clans would have gotten steam rolled but you guys killed a few FOE and lasted a while, respect Secondly the MM vs FOE fight should be called a draw, Ragging Mains, EOP, FI, HF, AF were all there. It wasn't clean enough to call a win for anyone. You guys need to stop dragging the fights to return spots. It just looks like the thing that happened last week happened again, MM won the initial fight at corp then they chase FOE returners down and end up chasing them to a return spot, FOE then mass return and kill MM, MM then return BHB and the fight goes there, they kill FOE, FOE then mass return CLW MM goes there and MM gets cleared MM then returned CLW etc etc etc obviously fights that last 1hr+ in low level wild right next to safe zones will attract mains/eop/fi/hf/af... L2not get in return fights.

**** ****

Looked like everyone who attended had a good time!

P2P MM - They have the numbers right now FOE - Slipping but not quite gone yet TLP - Dont have the opts but most certainly have the skill EOP - Lots of members, moderate P2P skill FI - In a bit of a slump right now but they know what there doing IR - Had a sudden growth spurt, but they cant seem to utilise the numbers well. CPR - Bit of a slump atm but like TLP, they don't have the opts but they have the skill. CH - Moderate amount of members, good clan... Not too big on P2P though. C - They don't really have the members right now but there good, they will creep up quickly.

looks like you pooped on the pure world. Do the same tomorrow and I think you can claim #1 f2p and p2p with out much dispute.

Looks like some solid wins, gj MM!

:/ a line must be drawn some where!

Well the pure world will never be like it was in 2007, the main world wont even be like it was in 2007. Pking has changed, Jagex has f**ked there game up. It's far too easy to return to fight so "return battles" kicked up, certain clans (mentioning no names) think it's a legitimate tactic to loose a fight, then re rush when the clan they lost too is on low food/looting items, so that they can claim a win. Things like that prevent the pure world from being as competitive as it once was. A out opted clan will not win, they might win the initial fight but they will simply be out returned. The clan world will never be like it was in 2007, because there are not as many people... However, the pure world right now is far better than it has ever been since the old wild has been taken out.

The only threat to pures right now, is Jagex.

depends what you and your clan finds fun. Dont do both if you dont want to do both.

Pulls have dropped due to clans like DP,Dv,E etc closing most members in clans like this usually only play for there clan and will quit scape after it :/ Yeh, and runescape is becoming less and less popular, I haven't see that much "fresh meat" recently.

Scape rivalry is f**kin brutal. You cant say that it doesn't make the game a thousand times more interesting. When you do have a rival though there is a line you have to be sure not to cross or it will just become a purely unpleasant experience. Competitive rivals = good and you don't have to worry too much. rivals derived from pure hatred = your playing with fire. Rivals add another level onto runescape, I see the clan world as a bit of a game of it's own.