Dave

So hold on, you should get your facts straight mate. We didn't ask for a cap, you did. Furthermore, if you claim VD are a med clan surely you yourselves must endorse and support med clans given that you teamed with a clan that had similar averages to VD: Allow me to explain: ** (CLANINFO): [Ac] Audace (http://z6.invisionfree.com/Audace) | Total members: 23 | [Avg] Cmb: (F2P: 59.3 | P2P: 60.47) Hp: 66.61 Magic: 57.3 Range: 67.48 Skill total: 608 | F2P or P2P: F2P & P2P based (Homeworld 10) | Cape: Wilderness9 | RuneHead link: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=pr0un1t ** (CLANINFO): [VD] Violent Demise (http://www.vdrs.ipbfree.com) | Total members: 32 | [Avg] Cmb: (F2P: 62.05 | P2P: 63.11) Hp: 68.44 Magic: 67.69 Range: 73.03 Skill total: 498 | F2P or P2P: F2P based (Homeworld 43) | Cape: Wilderness43 | RuneHead link: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=vd_clan *** [ CLAN COMPARE ]: Comparing [Ac] Audace ( http://z6.invisionfree.com/Audace ) to [VD] Violent Demise ( http://www.vdrs.ipbfree.com ) | Format: Ac/VD (Ac difference) *** [ CLAN COMPARE ]: Ac/VD | Members: 23/32 (-9) | Avg: Cmb: (F2P: 59.3/62.05 (-2.75) | P2P: 60.47/63.11 (-2.64)) HP: 66.61/68.44 (-1.83) Mage: 57.3/67.69 (-10.39) Range: 67.48/73.03 (-5.55) | Skill Total: 608/498 (+110) So based on those I'd say that Audace and VD are pretty similar in averages, within 3 levels of each other. Now apparently, Omnicide don't support the idea of med level clans fighting low level, and claim VD are med level. How can it be that Audace are low level and therefore allowed to fight other low clans but because VD have a few select high levels, which might I add Audace have as well, VD are med? If that be the case, then you Omnicide are hypocrites. Verily, a clan of such honor as yourselves shouldn't need to team with a "med" level clan to take out a "med" clan. I guess Omnicide isn't the honorable clan they claim to be, "no unfair advantages". The fact that you set a power limit on yourselves is your own problem, and you as a clan that has no impact or say in the pure world, given that every clan Tori has lead has failed have no right to dictate the terms of what a low level clan is. See you next Saturday, hopefully this time you'll smarten up.

Yea, its gay. Only good cartoon banners: CPs old one, TLP, MM.

OK, how many ******* times does it have to be said that a clans level isn't based on a SINGLE person, so ******* what, I was level 90. Doesn't mean the whole clan is, you were in 100% agreement that OB was a low level clan, but we had lower averages than them? How is that possible that we are med, yet OB wasn't. And to answer your question, we did fight Med/High level clans, we mini'd EOP, CP, TLP, MM, Epidemic numerous times.

Omnicide, destined to fail so its just a genocide of your clan.

Hoodrat above^ Sup Ak =)

Mk, so you are saying you as the ex Leader of Insignia, the clan that made no impact what so ever in the low division, other than win a fullout then close and team with OB (Amazing flame filled clan) should dictate how we need to operate? I don't think so. Having a combat cap for a requirement worked well for Epidemic, but they also had competent leaders and the member base who was dedicated enough to train together and strive together for a common goal (Except Jibs, he just used someone elses acc, pretty sure blahahahbhaha is still lvl 44 LOL) Either way, your opinions are null and insignificant. So you wouldn't accept someone who app'd with a 99 stat because you want to be "honorable"? Are you ******* retarded? God thats why low level clans won't ever get anywhere, so many ******** honor rules. I remember back when I'd attend low level PCL with DB, apparently it was NH to be above 80 combat. Boo ******* hoo, no one gives a ****. It was your idea to bring back PCL, so you live with it. Had all the ***** clans who made PCL actually decided to PK, maybe the 80 wouldnt have effected you so much?

Yes CS #1, obviously: Divine Brutality was the #1 low level clan whilst we still had the desire to continue, I lost internet, as did two other leaders due to unexpected family issues. http://www.youtube.com/user/ir0nDave #1 K? Currently, Im VD. VD now that DB are gone, is #1. Nuff said.

Sir Pker Wil I Honey I (Sam) Ure Idol (Casey) Nectar `Pure Drunky/Ovvnage Name

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Divine Brutality declared a fullout F2P PvP war on Insignia on December 25th, 2009. Status: Pending Rules: Overs ON Corrupt ON Divine Brutality Attack Single Round War MLs lock as of Friday 12AM No Applicants PvP World - Location/World Discussed in PM upon acceptance Reason: Was declined by Purity for a fullout, as well as CS, decided to continue looking. Insignia showed that they could beat a clan with similar averages to us (OB) and hence decided to declare on them to see how we ourselves would perform. Memberlists: Divine Brutality: (03:00:41) -Vectra[48]- ** (CLANINFO): [DB] Divine Brutality (http://www.divinebrutality.ipbfree.com) | Total members: 35 | [Avg] Cmb: (F2P: 61.64 | P2P: 61.77) Hp: 71.86 Magic: 62.74 Range: 66.26 Skill total: 380 | F2P or P2P: F2P & P2P based (Homeworld 85) | Cape: Wilderness37 | RuneHead link: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=daveswinners Insignia: (03:01:37) -Vectra[48]- ** (CLANINFO): Insignia (http://z10.invisionfree.com/InsigniaRs) | Total members: 32 | [Avg] Cmb: (F2P: 49.04 | P2P: 49.15) Hp: 50.19 Magic: 47.66 Range: 59.47 Skill total: 302 | F2P or P2P: F2P & P2P based (Homeworld 11) | Cape: Wilderness13 | RuneHead link: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=insigniapure Further Details and Declaration Topic: http://z10.invisionfree.com/InsigniaRs/ind...hp?showtopic=63

Goops a ***** so dont mind him.

rawr

Clan chats should have up to 300 slots.

Well, as stated prior, you can base it off a clans actions, progress, and similar.

Well its apparent Foe can't read. I said other than your own.

Evidently not there. I'll add you in.

Actually you can Reached, you hence why I stated give a reason, you can observe a clans progress, community, etc and determine its leaderships abilities. Furthermore, as for diplomacy, that should be obvious.

amazing as usual Matt.

Best Overall Pure Leadership Which High level clan do you think has the best leadership and why (aside from your own): Foe because they've managed to remain open and a top p2p clan for 3+ years. Which Med level clan do you think has the best leadership and why (aside from your own): Carnage, dominant p2p clan, but I'd like to see their leadership open up to F2P a bit more before they become like TLP, dumbstuck in f2p. Which low level clan do you think has the best leadership and why (aside from your own): CS, decent organization, needs more activity pushes and stricter leadership. Also, some aspects need to tone down their flames and stop running their mouth. Most Potential in Leadership Which High level clan do you think has the most potential in their leadership and why (aside from your own): TLP. TLPs leadership could easily push themselves into the top 4 for F2P but their hardheadedness is preventing them from progressing. Which Med level clan do you think has the most potential in their leadership and why (aside from your own): Carnage, same as above. They have the ability to but they refuse to because of hardheadedness. Which low level clan do you think has the most potential in their leadership and why (aside from your own): VD. I believe VDs leadership to be full of potential, and with a few tweaks, they could become a more dominant force. Most Diplomatic Leader Which High level clan leader do you think is most diplomatic and why (aside from your own): Fatality. Fi's current leadership I believe to be highly diplomatic and its this diplomacy that'll pull them back to the top 3. Which Med level clan leader do you think is most diplomatic and why (aside from your own): Unfortunately as of now, I don't see many Med level clans being diplomatic. Which low level clan leader do you think is most diplomatic and why (aside from your own): VD, though they could work on their timing a bit more, and expand their diplomatic horizons possibly. If you could steal one leader Which High level clan leader would you steal and why (aside from fame and stats): Sir Pker Wil (MM). Amazing guy, amazing friend, great leader. Learnt almost everything I know from him. Which Med level clan leader would you steal and why (aside from fame and stats): Poison Karsh (E). Great guy, fun, knows how to war, and tank and is great at keeping a community together. Which low level clan leader would you steal and why (aside from fame and stats): Katie (CS). Good friend, good warrer, doesn't flame. Can lead fairly well.

So I'm bored of the usual "Omg who is best" topic, so I've decided to make my own variation of the "Best Pure Clan Leader topic" and make it so that it incorporates high, med and low level clans as well as have reasons provided. So without further ado, let the topic begin. To start of with: Lets keep this civil and flame free, and have an open discussion =) For those of you who don't know low level clans: VD, DB, CS, Insignia, Vigilance, OB. OB Leadership: Corey, Jamie, Htown CS Leadership: Chloe, Katie (Check runehead for the rest) DB Leadership: Me (I Dezza I, ir0n0wn3r, Saosin), Tyler (Go Sleep Kid, I Cant Mini, Bad 1st Pile) VD Leadership: Alex, Matt, Marc, Matt (Check runehead for the rest) Insignia: Hugh, Rumpus, Fang, Bert Vigilance: No clue.

Good job CS. Bad day for us, time is way to early.

Addy pride.

Amazing job I. As for OB, they have idiotic leadership, please pay them no attention. You won this, fair and square.

Thanks.

Yea but losing to 14 friends of 80+ in addy isnt hard. Plus CS wouldnt have taken it seriously.