`Rage

Good show by mm, that was some beat down out of no where because I thought Foe would outpull MM by just enough to have an advantage, say even by just 5-6 people Wish we had fought but you guys were probably all out by the time you finished....and you know everyone else just ran away from us like the plague today but what else is new lol

If you wanted respect you should have never crashed all our fights for the last 6 months if you wanted respect you should have never ddos our vent if you wanted respect you would never mass spam our irc if you wanted respect you would have never sent phishing/keylogger links to our members on irc if you wanted respect you would have never told your members to hop on there mains during fights in pvp if you wanted respect you would not try to hack our forum accounts if you wanted respect you would accept a loss if you wanted respect you would not call your "allies" Phalanx to come help you in a fight in "f2p" mulitple times. But now for the past 2 months you have lost to CP matched ops and in pvp and you still cant accept a loss so you ask you're members to take time out of there daily lives to watcch CP fights? Cool. But anyways see you saturday. Should be fun Lose to CP matched opts? When was this? We've been fighting you outnumbered by 40+ every sat o_0 Even your topics say so it was our first big encounter, we beat you guys 3x in the same trip when we pulled 85 before the "merge"

how many did foe have? to not lose a single person not even to lag is pretty amazing to me at least, well earned win

1. mm/foe 2. foe/mm 3. cp/whoever is out 4. whoever is out

119-120, looks like mm wins by a buzzer beater at the end of 2nd overtime

chain69, we have all u need

chain69

We didn't really decline, we just wanted different terms for the war, but now we'll be ready for any full out now since we feel like it Looking forward to all the match ups except against some main clans

this is my point, for the last 6 weeks we've beaten you in the wilderness yet you still talk **** like anythings different. you failed at pissing us off but you did give us some nice motivation to come back for week 7 beat you to all you **** faces saying it's the internet- they're still people, you're using a retarded excuse to be a complete ***** because no one can hurt you over the internet i know for a fact that none of you would act like that to a stranger Why would you beating us for the past few weeks change my opinion on you? If you expected to gain respect for beating us you'd have to do it honorably, without the invites, the mass recruiting and the mains. Or maybe you'd at least have the cahunas to accept a prep or fullout with us, but no. The way your clan is being run is disrespectful to the pure world in itself, and if other clans start using you as an example then we're all just gonna turn back into cc based clans where whoever can get the most people at w32 edge before a war wins. edit: Found it amusing that your clan is on a quest for respect from strangers on the internet. it shouldn't change your opinion, what im tying to say is, clans who got their asses kicked went back to their caves to think of a way to beat Cp instead of wasting their breath flaming the wrong clan who ultimately decides their trip success or not were just trying to be nice by giving you guys first note notice because we want to compete with clans who we have no major issues with and wait while the eop/cp heat dies out, then when both clans can fight again we'll do it right this time that's the way we've always done business all this "See you next saturday, massers" is old dude, that **** you said the same thing for 5 straight weeks, isn't that pathetic on your parts that you have disappointed your clan with? We just want you guys to get off our backs so we can do things against other clans without having some little bug that annoys us everywhere we go whether its crashing or spying or dosing our vent or stupid pw replies We have no problems with Foe, foe doesn't do the things Eop has done to us, right now you know what I respect foe even more now because they're fighting like they should against us and make good competition but for you guys, the only clan i have the biggest problems with for the reasons stated above it's not fun, it's just straight up immature kiddie stuff, like some over obsessed girlfriend which roots back to earlier this year where i think is where eop started to forget it's roots and the way it did things and did cancerous **** you guys just got hit by a double dose every clan that's hated u for the things you did and now were giving you guys a chance to shut up and move on, but you never took that kind offer

well i thought we did well vs tlp yesterday, obviously we thought being out leveled as we were was something we can overcome, both main fights were close so why is it all the sudden impossible?

This is what I'm talking about. This is a CLAN LEADER, who can't even show enough respect to stop his members(and ranks) from flaming. It's all fine and dandy if you want to call other clans **** on your own forums, but christ, you've made no attempt at a public image. Well let's see, you have turned into a mass recruiting clan. Your leaders are not respectful to my clan, so why would I show respect? Talk about flaming.. You continuously flame us on our own aftermath topics (even if you are not involved), you run your mouth ingame, you talk **** about us on IRC, you leak our topics, and the list goes on.. What respect are you talking about here? Reply when you turn into an honour clan and your leaders' balls have dropped. Cp doesnt do the things Eop has done, period, we don't go to other clan's events and argue with 10 year old one liners, we don't raise up propaganda, we don't dedicate trips to other clans trying to close them, and when were beat we shut up and try to come back strong next week and until we beat that clan again we don't say a single word and keep to our business What has Cp done besides some good old flaming? The whole Eop brings mains thing was just brought into light and guess what? Cp just helped elevate the truth of what happened into another level, that's all The whole massers argument was over years ago, thats when you know you can't have a good rivarly when the other clan has NO IDEA on what to attack you with, they attack you with everything BESIDES a good fight(s) That's my ultimate problem with Eop, what happened to you guys really? I used to be able to go in your chat and had some fun convos, and be able to fight eop and see no one flaming, be able to support Eop everyday because that's the clan i LOVED to fight the most. You guys are dead to me, whoever killed my favorite clan to fight should be ashamed of themselves because that eop never would have pulled the **** they do now From another point of view, we didn't do anything but talk trash because we were provoked and guess what? It made us the better clan in the end and you know what, we don't want to bother with Eop anymore, but you guys still continued the fire and were just responding all the time to whatever eop says now which is pathetic and should have stopped weeks ago Sorry buddy. I know you are somewhat inactive but everything you said is hypocritical and many others would agree with me. CP members attend EOP events and flame us (namely Bvb Jr and his crew), your entire clan discussion boards are filled with "lol EOP", "selling tacos 49 gp", "brb calling px", etc. Simply put, there is no respect on an online game. Every clan has its fair share of flaming and they will never stop. Our private forums are not meant to be seen first of all, whatever goes on there is something that is no one's business, my main point was that on public forums like PW mainly you're not going to see anything from us because we know how sensitive things are and we respect that sensitivity because im pretty sure we could have been a hell lot more rowdy and immature because our recent success was something completely new to us and i think we've responded well on regards to that I think what were trying to do now is just conduct our business on our own terms, it's just going to have to be an ultimatum for us to do things the way we want without being targeted or given attention constantly because that's something we never want Whatever happens this week, i'll promise we won't make any threads for us to say "you know what were done with our stupid feuds" with Eop and erase the 50% of the **** posts on this forum

I think there's invisible lines on that type of standard, sure there's some legit debates on **** you don't like and you explain the reasons you don't like it and then the other guy explains themselves against that argument Then don't you know when a troll is just a troll? Trolling is one thing and regular old arguing is something else Thats where the standard of "respect" comes, its a terribly low standard but i think there ALREADY is mutual decency between every clan that gives eachother a fight no matter what and that's where we don't know were respecting another clan until they're gone When we don't want that clan in our irc or want to war them that's when they should know they're not RESPECTED at all for some reason because they crossed some lines that never were and my clan never saw it coming and just act up in disgust That's just my definition of respect, i've probably hated every clan that's rivaled ours or said something about us but when they left the clan world you just felt like you lost another clan worth doing the things we do in this game because deep down inside you knew they were regular competitors and never resorted to the ******** I see now which has created this debate, they knew when too low was too low

This is what I'm talking about. This is a CLAN LEADER, who can't even show enough respect to stop his members(and ranks) from flaming. It's all fine and dandy if you want to call other clans **** on your own forums, but christ, you've made no attempt at a public image. Well let's see, you have turned into a mass recruiting clan. Your leaders are not respectful to my clan, so why would I show respect? Talk about flaming.. You continuously flame us on our own aftermath topics (even if you are not involved), you run your mouth ingame, you talk **** about us on IRC, you leak our topics, and the list goes on.. What respect are you talking about here? Reply when you turn into an honour clan and your leaders' balls have dropped. Cp doesnt do the things Eop has done, period, we don't go to other clan's events and argue with 10 year old one liners, we don't raise up propaganda, we don't dedicate trips to other clans trying to close them, and when were beat we shut up and try to come back strong next week and until we beat that clan again we don't say a single word and keep to our business What has Cp done besides some good old flaming? The whole Eop brings mains thing was just brought into light and guess what? Cp just helped elevate the truth of what happened into another level, that's all The whole massers argument was over years ago, thats when you know you can't have a good rivarly when the other clan has NO IDEA on what to attack you with, they attack you with everything BESIDES a good fight(s) That's my ultimate problem with Eop, what happened to you guys really? I used to be able to go in your chat and had some fun convos, and be able to fight eop and see no one flaming, be able to support Eop everyday because that's the clan i LOVED to fight the most. You guys are dead to me, whoever killed my favorite clan to fight should be ashamed of themselves because that eop never would have pulled the **** they do now From another point of view, we didn't do anything but talk trash because we were provoked and guess what? It made us the better clan in the end and you know what, we don't want to bother with Eop anymore, but you guys still continued the fire and were just responding all the time to whatever eop says now which is pathetic and should have stopped weeks ago

Like I said in my previous post, that's regular old banter that we do, we don't resort to propaganda or go with our entire clan to other clan's events to flame them when we have no business there, we do our business when were fighting against each other but nothing else outside of RS We know our limits and were not going to do what some other clans do, who said we let it bother us? Don't you think those things should be avoided anyway? I mean obviously the clans who've resorted to those things have had no business competing with us lately so in the right mindset anyone would find it mindless fun but any real clan would just stop what they're doing and move on to better things I think by that point it's not a rivalry anymore, it's just one clan talking and another clan doing and that type of **** shouldn't be acceptable I can speak for nearly every clan left alive, were all 3-4+ years old, i think it's time we just know our places and do things right because you never want to see one less competitor out there or create reasons why people don't think pure clanning is enjoyable

I think its come along way in the worst ways possible, back then when there was some great rivalries where they were serious and people took it to another level by writing essays on arguments and that served as trashtalk, people had some sense of logic and acceptance, "ok ill give u this but ur still (curse word here)" and i though it was healthy , fun to read and try to combat someone's point of view because you know how much it meant to both clans when either proved eachother wrong was the best part to be involved in Now all you see is "u mad", "massers", "mithlords", bunch of terrible 1 worders that have pretty much killed the concept of rivalry, what's there to prove when you proved yourself against that clan and theyre still continue doing what they do instead of shutting up and saying "ok on to the next one, you got us right now we'll be on you guys when we can" because that stuff was quietly said by our rivals and we laid off eachother pretty much and went our ways until we crossed paths again Well the only thing we can control is our clan and i don't think you'll be seeing any of that from us and you just hope everyone follows along, we just ignore that stuff anyway

Actually it is. They have a 1000+ skill points only world. But I doubt they're going to be able to exclude members from pking. Many people have made new accounts so it won't be fair to them. well on that thought considering that i've missed so many updates i think we shouldn't put it past jagex anymore but still i think it'd be something redundant considering what we defined as "wilderness" which was all worlds were wilderness, anything went, it had many popular hotspots with constant action, being able to drop trade etc. they can't bring back our wilderness without it going against most things jagex implemented in the first place. The thing they should do the most is find a way to connect all your accounts in order for free trade between them

So they're going to make a special server for these long term customers? I really don't think its in jagex to exclude people but i dont think this will work too well anyway, the qualifications would be pretty demanding and you'll be basically getting **** if there's no one to pk with or trade with It'd just be another hype machine when all these kids thinks its going to be back instead when its something that'll only be made up of 1% of rs members

peyton manning wins mvp #5 on rs thats how good he is true story

Being in CP for your whole clanning career, you are certainly in a position to judge that. Well when he can take a "bunch of random level 60s in mith" to where they're at, im confident that any other leader in his position probably would have failed I'm confident that any leader can win a fight 100 v 65 Well you mustn't have too much confidence if you can't beat level 60s that were just picked up from GE yesterday Cmon we did that all the time back then in wilderness!

Being in CP for your whole clanning career, you are certainly in a position to judge that. Well when he can take a "bunch of random level 60s in mith" to where they're at, im confident that any other leader in his position probably would have failed He's our peyton manning as of now

When you sit down and relax like good kids, you've done a good job so far so don't be surprised if santa clause grants your wish until then Respect to tlp for the fight and flame free, obviously toxine should have added the last round and should edit

Chain or Drunk, if you told me that some ex-th leader would come to cp and make it #1 than you would have been laughed out your way here back then, and even drunk has come a long way and his in-game calling is the best in the game

I think foe will win

pulling over 100 people with an 88 man ml is taking that theory too far. That is going beyond a clan, and it makes me honestly look at it like... what the **** is the incentive to "join cp". It looks more like all you are doing is getting as many meatshields as you can to take the hits whilst you core member base of around maybe 40-50 does the real work. Now i dont mind that personally, its a game and you do what you want and no1 has any right to tell you otherwise but just stop pretending you are doing something different. That is my only problem lol. If you happily said yea so what, we open up the cc, we recruit from edge up to an hour before the trip and half the people i fight beside at the trip i dont even know... yet we still smashed you. I would just put it down as fair play, we got done. But its when you try to put up some false brivado lol and it just looks stupid. You have some very good f2pers, there is no doubt but just gets overshadowed unfortunately. We both know if we are being honest that fight was never near matched opts, but if i didnt think i could win it i wouldnt of been there in the first place so i have no arguments. Now i like you rage, so i hope you dont take any of this as flame or trolling because it genuinely isn't. I understand what your trying to say but WE ARE different than every other clan that has ever been open, were not trying to be different, we already a different breed of clan always, its because we know how hard it was to get where were at now because of the circumstances that we never had in the past or even now You know Cp has the hardest time recruiting the best guys out there unlike MM or foe or even E got that much more experienced applicants without putting so as much effort because your right, why do people even join Cp when they can have joined fi, mm or foe back then? How many guys that we TRAINED ourselves have gone to go to fi, foe and mm? Countless because that's who Cp was back then Cp has to resort to these things, these "merges", these "mass recruits" because if we want to get where were at it's not going to be with our name alone, or what our skill in p2p is or how many of our members have solo pking vids that attract new members on youtube or the quality of our forums or sites We cant afford time that our members don't have anymore, it's not only cp though, because if were going to enjoy what we have and be the best aswell it's going to be a shotgun wedding between our members and our clan for them to want to stay in Cp for the long-term You can say what you want but until you've lead Foe with our circumstances, then i really don't think you can have much of a say on it because its just something we just HAVE TO DO to be successful But you know what, things change and I think Cp's just getting near that level of foe's or the past fi's or mm's where it's a clan that has the best f2p pkers, so maybe in the future we won't have to do these things, who really knows we've only been open for 5 years right? Those core 40-50 members will turn to 60-70 and then you hope that it continues growing because were not trying to be anyone but Cp because were always struggling but somehow live to tell the tale and it makes our success much more sweeter, it's almost like that's why people even join Cp in the first place it's only taken half a decade for us to finally get noticed and to finally have some reason for people to join us but for us to receive the **** we've gotten has been uncalled for but i think Cp's responded to all that in the best way possible since were juts trying to run away from that now I think i've just spoken for countless dead clans, because they've been shunned for things that they shouldn't have been shunned for, and i think Cp's the combination of all those dead clans now because we've been there in the land of no return as they have but we just manage to tough it out and be better because we know how fun it's been every time with 100 people or 30 people

I disagree because Tp E and Cp were identical clans built on organization mainly, I'm pretty sure the members/leaders that have branched from those clans were around ours and ours to theirs etc so the ideas were intact or philosophy of our clans were alike, I always considered E like our little brothers the first time they were around Obviously each clan had their own story I guess E could be considered a "little brother", idunno about anything else. TP seemed to make it a point to be better than CP and we succeeded every time we went out. From where I was in the clan, you guys were more or less the most hated in the community. **** which Tp are you talking about lol, i think we were still s0's jrs when tp was a top clan back then and i don't think we've ever had any fights, and yeah when cp started by itself is when we were the most hated clan somehow Those ever distant days huh? people were alot more immature back then but i guess the standards of clanning were so low you just enjoyed breaking the limits one by one, i think everything that could be done has been done... I'm talking everywhere from The Pures to The Pures Reborn essentially. and i disagree wholeheartedly with your last statement. the pure clan community has gone way down hill since then. back then the competition was far more fierce, and more scores were settled in the wildy then on stupid forums. It was more fierce because it was alot more immature and every1 just seemed so hostile with each other which is what i said about it, but i think now its just more relaxed and i think most clans seem to take it easy with some exceptions to individuals I don't know if its a good thing or bad thing really, clans just seem to close now because of their leaders quitting the game instead of clans just ultimately slumping to their closures like back then There's still a mean of competition, it's not the best but its still enjoyable because it is what it's been and the concept of a run-in or a clanwars fight hasn't changed much cept tactics and the people who lead them