Pepsis

oh so now he brings up kdr lols so what about a few weeks prior to eoc when FI put you at a 400/1100 kdr...

Exactly, and MM has been very consistent at losing, as seen in the week prior to EOC.

I'm not saying NME was good. Actually I think they were bad very very very bad good leadership horrrriiibbbbleeee members. but they beat you so idk what that says about you :3 I would agree with FOE and FI as they're both pretty good at everything. CLW/Wildy in both servers, but the only thing MM seems to be good at is 100v100 F2P clw. Like I've mentioned multiple times now.

That's the thing though! They're not! They couldn't even beat people that were lower leveled, like I've pointed out earlier against NME. This discussion is just going in circles, with no solid proof of MM being a good clan aside from their 100v100 record, which isn't even realistic seeing as they won't full out anyone other than FOE or FI.

aww jonty is getting upset 3;

not clicking but i'm pretty sure you wouldn't post a picture of you losing 100m to me >.> nice one though no but im pretty sure im proving a point of all my stakes are below 50m cept for 2. all the stakes that you won haha ;p

At the end of the day, it's runescape. Is beating anyone really an achievement? Point is winning is winning, losing is losing. You lost to us, a lot. You lose, a lot. You can say you're baby pures, but majority of you were above 100 cb. Defense isn't an excuse. It never has been, it's just what you got fed day after day by your incompetent and nostalgic leadership who was clearly stuck in the past, which in the end led to your clan losing to basically everybody.

not clicking but i'm pretty sure you wouldn't post a picture of you losing 100m to me >.> nice one though

lol We decline eop cuz they will ddos to win anything and they had **** rules. 20 def on, corrupt off? I would have love to fight cp/fi but they never declared. If you're gonna use one derp moment where MM lost vs nme to say we are bad then lol. The true statement should be that clans who can't match us are bad and thus why they resorted to 39 def but that didn't do much either. We've won many matched opt fights, needless to say 100vs100 are matched opts aren't they? In the end the clan you're in probably doesn't do much events other than clan wars. Well since eop has never won a 100v100, and you've never lost I didn't think you'd need a teamspeak to beat them.. >.> guess you're not as good as you thought lol. I wish CP/Fi would have fought MM in F2P, or Fi vs FOE in p2p, but I guess noone had the balls ;'P MM lost to NME more than once. I honestly just CBF finding the fights. I'm pretty sure it was after NME accepted def too though. My clan pked every day with like ~10-15 people at 50 ports in w124 up until EOC. I'm pretty sure some of your members even came with us a few times? ;P I'm just saying, there's been many times where MM has been a disappointment. You would think since they've been around for so long that some of their members would actually be good at the game, but we beat them outnumbered in numerous events. So my opinion is still that MM has no quality, sucks at basically everything they don't have a significant number advantage.

to take your money ajajaja You won 10m off me one time, got scared and left. Ive won more than 10m off you. Nah! it was like a year and a half ago so i'll refresh your memory You staked me 10m, I won. You started getting upset and flaming me, so i was like okay we'll do a 25m one then. You won, then wanted to do more. I put up 50, beat you. You got upset again, staked 100, I won, then I took my earnings and left ;3 Thanks though man!

Clan wars is extremely relevant to recent clanning, because as you said clans are too ***** to fight the highest pulling clan, whether it be EOP, TLP, Fi, MM, or FOE, usually one of them is chasing around everyone, meaning crash fests, meaning it's only logical to go to clan wars to prevent crashing. If they've never won a full out then why did you decline? If MM is as good as they think they are then having a 100v100 vs EOP would just be another win under their belt. However, I think the reason for declining is because you guys were afraid to lose the "undefeated" title in 100v100 f2p fullouts. I honestly think 2012 CP and Fi would both beat MM. I guess we don't know that though because MM was too afraid to lose the title. So now we've gone over the fact that MM sucks at preps, sucks at wildy fights, and is scared to lose a full out. Is there anything that makes people believe they're a good clan other than their pulls?

I'm not 100% sure but other clans besides FOE and FI are scared to full out us. The funny mindset is that you think clan wars is relevant. It's about consistency in the wild that really matters, clan wars is simply a place to full out safely from crashers. Even then our first full out vs foe was in the wild and we won down 10. You guys declined against EOP though....................... Clan wars is relevant. You just said it yourself, it's basically a controlled environment with no crashers.

to take your money ajajaja

I'm not 100% sure but if I remember correctly the only 2 clans you've ever had 100v100 F2P fullouts vs were FOE & Fi. I also think it's kind of funny how you have the mindset that clan wars doesn't mean anything then you bring up a 100v100 you had in clan wars >.>

I'm pretty sure we didn't bank the whole time we were in the wild when we fought nme after clearing every clan in the wild, was leaders fault. Sorry but I don't see "quality" in little 30vs30s in clan wars, all you little clans do is pull 20s to trips and run out around like headless chickens when it comes to the wild. Until you continually pull high while fighting other clans who pull just as high aka full outs there's no quality in your little preps your clans are based around. So if you didn't bank, you needed to work on returning, as that sort of ties in with quality. You don't see quality in clans beating you when you have more than them? That's funny. It's also funny that you said we run around like headless chickens. That's exactly what you guys do when you pull 130 to everyone elses 50. The number advantage is so much that you don't have to be organized. However when you have a lower pull you have to be a lot smarter about things.

lol i knew the defense excuse was coming you lost to nme, when you had numbers on them, they were 1-10 def i honestly could care less about pulls. As I said before, if pulls determined whether or not a clan was good or not, clans like POP would be considered better than clans like TLP lol. and yes, my honest opinion is that MMs quality is horrible.

corrupt nimrods

get your facts straight before you go posting out of your ass.. look at the minimap, arrows everywhere because we just cleared eop (aka sea of addy), with maybe less than half of MM left, with no or low food and pray, also it was 2011 so it was probably foeop who just got cleared and we still stayed and fought nme.. not bad for "the worst clan of 2011" eh? my facts were straight you had 80 nme had 65 nme beat you those were the only 3 facts i stated lol it was late 2011, so it definitely wasnt foeop and i never said mm is the worst clan of 2011, i said you have the worst quality of any clan. that's not a fact, it's an opinion. my opinion is supported by facts, like the 3 i stated above.

no pot was the first clan to accept 30 def. TLP had a lot of 1 defs before the EOC as well

just stop lol you were in Havoc longer than that, granted you left and came back a few times going by the logic that pulls are what make clans good, then POP would probably be tied with TLP for #2 P2P. first fight, NME had ~65, you had ~80 you brought up the date I joined pure warfare, so I reminded you that I was leading you in Havoc around that time. So it is relevant to this discussion. Also you might want to work on your english, I had a hard time understanding what "How is this any irrelevant to this topic" meant. Me backing loki up? Me and loki probably disagree on most things. we're always having little debates about stupid things. Granted we don't mindlessly flame each other like the majority of people on here. The only time we lost preps was when we went into the dead season last year (~decemberish), we lost a good number of our quality members, and Loki did go inactive around that time. So it was me leading by myself, which was sort of new to me, with a bunch of people who were either new to the pure community, or from ****** F2P clans. So yeah we did go on a losing streak around that time with me leading. However we were out of it in mid January lol. Then I continued to lead Havoc v3, which was all new faces, and we managed to beat you out numbered, TLP, and FOE all in one week lol. Also, my first post was completely on topic. I stated who I thought would win the yearly awards for 2 years, then you went on a tangent lol.

I forgive your stupidity and ignorance. You are oblivious to pretty much everything and let jealousy blind your perception, but I forgive. i'm a better brid than you, i'm a better warrer than you, i'm a better caller than you! sound familiar?? ;P I already ended your career once young padawan I'll ignore your first ridiculous claim because we both already know who's better, clearly. The only thing you ended was your job at taco bell because you wanted more time to play Runescape. Get off the thread you moron l0l. lol he's pretending like he forgot! ;3

i'm 20 years old and all of you are younger so clearly you should still have an interest for this game that i no longer like but still want all of you to play xP

H tried to give it a shot, but basically there was no competition as far as P2P. CP was all bark no bite, said no1 would accept their events but then declined our offers for events. TLP accepted an event, then cancelled when they went to BS. FOEs leaders all pretended to be afk lols.. rest of the clans are basically irrelevant aside from EOP who I just forgot about tbh lol. basically the little that was left of P2P died.

One of the best? FOE was the best.

2011 was completely between eop and mm 2012 was 70% mm 30% fi MM didnt close 3 times or accept defence don't see how we'd win biggest disappointment over havoc. also pure clanning didnt start in 2011 Joined: 12-July 11 You wouldnt know though :) Just and idea no need to start with the ****** flame cause you realised you are nothing without loki and are depressed about it lol. i mean i guess if you only count the clans that suck then 2011 was definitely between eop and mm! unfortunately, you were in Havoc the majority of 2011, so you had no part of MM becoming the best of the worst. 2012 was like 90% FI, 10% MM pulling 70 more than everyone else. No, you didn't close 3 times, but you have probably the worst quality members I've ever seen in any clan. A good example is when you lost to NME when NME had 17 less than you. Oh yeah and they only had 1-10 def so you can't really use that excuse. I was leading you before July 2011, if I remember correctly, that was around the time where you wanted to wear your 20 def gear to the 1 def inners, so I dismissed you from the inners and you cried like a little ***** lmfao@@ And I'm not flaming, I'm stating my opinion, which is basically what you asked for.. You're the one talking about Loki all the time, are you sure you're the one who doesn't need him? Anyway, Loki has achieved a lot, and has been a big reason for much success I've had over this game. However, Havoc v3 was 85% me, including beating your **** clan outnumbered lol!