Quode

Everybody thinks it's just to bash UP LMAO

I'm going to make this brief and simple. -Ok, so we opened at around 2:50ish PM Eastern Time. -We're F2p based, and we don't use TS. -If you want more information/feel for us, you can idle in our official IRC channel #down. -We are not having a forums base. -Yes we're serious, F2p and No TS.... Ask YR ;) Feel free to comment, rate, hate, appreciate, and overall post your opinions :P P.S. DOWNIES 4 LYFE

Cool numbers :) Certaintly highest percentage of 1v1ers :). But I guess if that's relevant when the whole clan system in RS has only been up for less than 2 years, and it counts Clan Wars kills, then amazing :).

Mains are **** at warring (referring to pure warring as just "mass sniping"), but better with their communities/legacies. I've heard some main clan members classify "HF, PX, and VH" as "pure" clans... Which although I won't condemn their entire community for, just shows the lack of knowledge concerning pures in general. His Lordship has good points in his video, ones I agree with, because wherever some main skillers go, level 3-60 skillers will risk, which will encourage pure pkers to venture out again as well.

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Tbh they're just re-hyping the zerk/runepure scene.... Another HF, but on their own and not using alliances with big name clans to keep themselves propped up alive ^_^.

Gl ladies :)

Foe also stated that they will be now accepting up to 35 defence with the allowance of Adamant in F2P trips. Much Props to IR though ;) Isn't EOP allowing addy on trips too now? Some of the ranks were discussing allowing it, but went against it and still are not allowing addy.

This is a REALLY long textwall just sorta expressing my view on the current situation the community is in. If you don't feel like reading it all, then ask somebody who does read it if you care enough. This is just sorta my observation from a F2p Pker's standpoint, and I'm not saying I'm the god of reason, but that's just my view on all of this. Spoiler: I read both Karl and Omni's topics, and most of the replies that were made on their topics, and I felt a bit inclined to make my own post/discussion open for those who are interested enough in their community to take note of the surges beneath it. First off I would like to just start off by saying Scott is a brilliant writer, and I believe that his skills are journalist-worthy by anybody's measure. Great work to put out and ask Karl to post for you, I've never been able to just chat with you, but that's just the way things are. I definitely see your points and agree with them, although sadly the revolution is not likely to happen the way we'd like it to happen. Secondly, Omni has a valid point, one that I've noticed as an observer, despite the fact my clanning days didn't really begin until 2009. The pure community pretty much lost its definition and true center with the removal of the wilderness, and it might've been "wiser" for the preservation of the pure ideal if clans would've closed following December 12th or whenever it was, 2007. However I'm not really here to debate about the "clan" aspect or the "defence" aspect of Pures, because being a f2p based Pker (started in 2005, successfully 2006), I began of course as a typical "main"... up until combat 82ish or so when I'd reached 65 attk 65str 65def. I was strictly a melee user, and after choosing to just level attack/str and leave defence where it was at, I made my baby steps in moving along the pure-path permanently, without any sort of YouTube influences or clanning experience. The original goals for pures was to do the most damage at the lowest combat level. That cannot be debated nor argued against, because that was the whole point of NOT levelling defence purposefully on one's account. Obviously, however, people are allured by the aspect of new armour/gear/bonuses that defence levels offer, and so as Omni stated, the PCL era in essence pushed pure clans along that path just to survive, by remaining "successful". The fact that any combat range could enter Clan Wars and BH Craters for the most part just encouraged the movement for HPC's and Higher Combat Levels just in general. Of course when Wilderness was brought back, and even before when the BH Worlds were again based on combat level tightness/range, many clans just kept their habits of pushing for more levels, more "damage", and thus created the ever-widening gap between the individual members' and their cb's..... WHICH COMPLETELY DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A CLAN. Of all of the clans out there currently, the tightest clans out there as far as sticking to what range they like Pking in are Fatality (focalizing more than 80% of their ml over cb 90), xL (started as 64-74, and now are at 73-85), NME (started tight, have remained tight though they have some stragglers, and currently mostly boast 76-90 cb, all with 1-10def), and the newly opened LPCs. Every other clan has their "core" that has an avg cb range, but on their big events, EVERY single HPC/MPC has players ranging from combat 70-110, which is utterly ridiculous just looking from a Pking standpoint, which is the whole reason clans were formed in the first place. If I'm dreadfully honest, my personal definition of a Pure Pker is anybody whose Constitution level is equal to or higher than their combat level. That's at their "maxed" status where they won't level combat anymore. Does that mean I classify 40-45def rune pures as "pures"? If they max out combat 99 w/ 80attack 40def 44prayer, then hell yea. Maxed out @ cb 92 w/ 60attk 40def? Hell the **** yea. Most of them don't fight with armour anyways, they just bring it and wear it for the risk/profit factor, which is the most popular appeal to Pkers anyways. Again, I'm speaking from a F2p standpoint, and obviously Turmoil and such COMPLETELY changed the outlook of things, but even w/ turmoil, a good rune pure who sacrifices his attack and prayer level to remain within his/her preferred cb range (88-100), will beat out that maxed turmoil pure. The reason people complain about the "addy" and "defence" is because the style they prefer to PK is in robes w/ fast moves and constant damage... both dealt and received. When clan leaders fail to keep their clan in the respective cb avg and range that they can handle/enjoy Pking with/against, it stirs up drama and **** because it's not fun to have stragglers and people sitting in 1v1 unable to participate w/ their clan. And as for the "powerhouses" who have so widened their cb range it's disgusting, their high levels find themselves sniped by Main Clans, and their low levels have to be in deep wild to compete and fight with their clan. This limits available venues in the wilderness to fight, as well as spurs on the desire for more levels. Be it defence, attack, prayer, whatever. All of this is unconscious, but it's an active mental game that plays through people's heads. My favorite combat range to Pk 1v1 is 88-98. My favorite multi cb range to Pk in is 80-95. Obviously I would choose the best of both worlds and the appropriate clan/community to get that. Clans have lost this image though, and so it leads to the tears we currently have within the community today. Morale of the story, re-asses what you clan for. If you just clan to rush out and bash heads, maybe you should join a main clan. If you like to be tight-knit and successful with your mates in your combat range, then find that clan that suits you, or make one and build it with your mates. Some of the longest-lasting clans have been based off of SMALL Pking teams, that got good and official working together in their element, and so moved on into other and more "profitable" things. Just something to think about. Sorry for textwall. ILY if you read that <3

Gratz Z :)

Gj ladies :) gratz on da 3-0

GJ EOP @iSenne EOP #1 Propaganda, MM #1 Excuses. Check orb counts more brah, am sure yalls signups were more.

Good job on trip CP shoutout to batman that is all

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None of you are pures. Except for the LPC's. If you have more than one stat over 90 you're not pure because you're not specializing in a single stat. You are however all PKers, and thus entitled to PK at whatever cb range you're most comfortable with, and so can have your clan with whatever rules you want. inb4morewhining

Options for you (;)): 1) It is dying 2) Will continue path 3) Mith beats Addy 4) Excuses still coming

Didn't watch. Am anti-Bible as far as treating it as the true word of God. Lightning didn't strike and write EVERY copy that exists, and somehow perfectly translate it into every language. Good stories, good morales, some decent wisdom life tips, but if anything's based on bible, sorry I'm going to be in conflict with it.

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TY ;)

gj ladies

K soz I'll remember next time to ask you permission before I post a topic point is ur talking **** in the fights, yet u wuld never even consider fighting us 10 down ever is lawl init >has almost entire ml with P2p status(larger as well) >yet pulls less to F2p Saturday than P2p Sunday >upset that F2p based clan outpulls them on Saturday, talks **** as they do it, and expects them to rush them out-opted w/ less P2p members vs a P2p based clan on a P2p Sunday..... >thus insinuating that F2p based clan doesn't fight while down 10+ opts on regular basis vs clans that CAN pull on F2p Saturday. Am I the only one that thinks the thought process is messed up here?

Am I the only one who feels like one should point out weekend trips DO matter more than fullouts these days? People who have time to clan/play this game get on for that short burst during the weekends to play and war w/ their clan. Scheduling a one-shot-wonder sort of win is a ludicrous way to rate a clan in regards vs another, as it always has been and mostly will be. Too many variables/excuses can be used to defend a loss and claim a win, which altogether makes weekend archives far easier to rate statistics accurately and unprejudicially. To make a topic about HPC stats and only focus on the defence levels is like making a political party to win over the popular majority and only focus on rights and benefits for the minority. Just my input as far as this topic and its seemingly misdirected author is concerned.

Tebow for #1 NFL Runningback +1 I'm just waiting for the day he messes up and rushes into a defense with a linebacker setup who DOESN'T feel like just cruising along the game for the money.... One injury and Tebow is OUT. P.S. some1 needs to tell him this is NFL, not NCAA and he's playing for Broncos, not Gators.

Sorry haven't checked boards inawhile, but as in response to your reply, it's not necessarily that we have different souls within us, but rather we're a soul that is put in an earthly, carbon body with earthly, carbon needs/desires which conflict with the "zen" or "central" being that is ourselves, which as you go through life and mature/read/learn you develop and come into more steadfast realization with. Well technically no one WOULD change as far as their core is concerned, and as far as their central zen is concerned theoretically... HOWEVER souls DO change depending upon life-to-life experiences, because as stated technically we obviously don't REMEMBER the previous life. The new souls are created/found to fill the empty carbon shells that are formed during reproduction (sex). It is also possible to debate that there are so many souls already pre-formed and pre-created that there aren't ENOUGH bodies for them to fill, or better yet there is like a waiting list so-to-speak before you can return back into the Earth. So in essence, both I suppose LOL. Because think about it, souls can be created if there's a need to be, ESPECIALLY if you believe in a deity/God/Ultimate Creator, because that's the only possible explanation for such a theory. Overall I find your replies intriguing and this topic all in all better than I anticipated :D so ty for the post(s) :P

*cough* And who was it *cough* that pointed it out to you????? oh w8 inb4tyQuode