Tiger

the good guys win! FATALITY!!!!!!!!!! down by 12 and we still pull it out

no

keep it up, congratulations on 5

pretty sure no one here has said/insisted that but thats just me.

You didn't read the post closely enough then.

http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/c=qH...63762514,goto,1 plz support.

I'd love to fully come back to rs, but I certainly do not have a problem not logging into RS again if the update is bad.

I honestly want this update to be positive, I want it to be successful. It has to be. But looking at the information that has been provided so far, and Jagex track record, this could be the greatest disappointment in RS history. Jagex is going about this the wrong way from the very start.

nothing wrong with being illiterate, ty for da support.

bro i know, im just bored and need something to do over the summer ^_^

Jagex, you have surprised me once again. I have been contemplating my return to RuneScape. But seeing this combat update beta to be accessible soon, I fear that you, as a company, have not fully understood ramifications that come with this update, which has been merely based on FAULTY LOGIC. You have used pures as a scapegoat to undertake this revolution in combat. But at what cost? You have further alienated a significant player base that has benefited and given RuneScape a new avenue to explore combat and the game as a whole. If this update goes as planned based under an illogical premise, then PvP will be reduced to nothing, ruining the formula that has made RuneScape so successful during its prime. “Pures are not being outlawed in the new system, but it you have chosen not to train your defence, you will find yourself at a disadvantage in combat.” – Mod Rathe "Fix the relationship between Defence, life points and damage outputs – Your ability to heal damage, through food or similar mechanics, should be comparable to how much damage you receive. That’s not quite true at the moment, and we’d like to address that. Allow players’ combat levels to truly represent their ability – The combat level calculator is complicated and encourages players to not train certain skills in an attempt to create a false impression of their damage potential (pures)." These quotes suggest that pures have caused the imbalance of the combat system. Pures are not the problem. The problem is the combat triangle. Not combat levels, THE COMBAT TRIANGLE. How can you say that we (the Pures) have ruined combat as a whole when the creators of RuneScape have allowed the ability for pures to exist through its current combat system? That is an illogical jump to an illogical conclusion. Instead of Jagex--Whom I’ll concede this point to--having made this unintended anomaly in its combat system taking credit for the SUCCESS that it has brought the combat, they decide to spread the implausible truth and point the finger at pures. You, as a company, have not even begun fully to address the matter of the combat triangle imbalance. Range is still underpower versus Melee; Magic is literally a sub-skill that is easily trumped versus either the two combat options. As a nearly maxed pure (I have 99 Strength, Range, and Mage, but only 83 Attack and 97 HP), I can provide testament to how undervalued Range, especially Magic, is to the current combat system. I rarely ever use Magic unless I’m drag pking for the lulz, going Elvemage style with full mystic and a Karil’s Crossbow. Elvemage was actually capable of utilizing the two weaker forms of combat, making him one of the greatest PKers of all time (Personally my favorite, that’s why I started my account!) But back on the subject, Melee has received constant buffs (Turmoil, Choatic Weapons), while Range and Magic are still lagging behind. Instead of fixing those glaring inequalities, Jagex unnecessarily shifts the focus on to Pures, which is ridiculous. To say that Pures have exploited a system that DELIBERATELY allowed such molding and shaping into a pure, is illogical. Pures have brought a new dimension to pking, as well as being replay value to RuneScape in the manner of new accounts being made, baby runes, rune pures, range/mage pures, melee/magic pures, etc. Jagex, you don’t seem to realize that you’ve inadvertently created a formula that has brought RuneScape its success. If you can’t properly connect the dots with why RuneScape’s combat system is broken, how can we trust you to properly fix it? If this update were to be implement, PvM will fully dominate PvP. It was PvP that brought RuneScape its success, not PvM. For Jagex to turn its back on the recipe that made RuneScape relevant in discussing which are the best MMORPG’s has perverted RuneScape as a whole, and sadly, killing the most important aspect of RuneScape due to the success of PvP, originality. What other MMORPG can boast that it has clans that are 3, 4, even 7 YEARS OLD? Very few, but RuneScape is right up there with them, if not leading that call. How many memberships are renewed due to the success of those clans, the promising competition that battle has caused? More than PvM, I can tell you that. Clans are the main basis for the replay value, the endurance of its most dedicated players to RuneScape. But as soon as Jagex turned its back on the clan world, PvP has lost its flair, its touch, and left RuneScape nosediving into despair. The imbalance of the combat triangle has only exacerbated the problem. PvP through clans fosters longer lasting relationships that can keep players in the game. Do I even need to quote players from RSC, Pure Warfare, RSB, and other fan sites who will testify to this? Shifting from PvP to PvM has created a Recipe for Disaster. (See what I did there? =]) And yet Jagex, you still blame pures. And you see this combat update as a remedy to fixing PvP’s problems, making it fun and lucrative to all players once again. Maybe it is, but Jagex, with your track record in dealing with PvP, you show NO PROMISE IN FIXING ANY PROBLEM. My solution? I offer none. But what I do ask is a referendum on the combat update. Let’s see what the player base is thinking, instead of catering to the childish “mains” who rant on the forums because they’ve been beaten by a pure.Work with your player base instead of dividing and scapegoating a part of it. Pures, in this current combat system, are adequately represented by their combat level, and have been for YEARS. So why change this now? Pures are not the cause of your dilemma Jagex; it is from your faulty logic alone. I am merely an observer who has seen Jagex at its worst, and its best. Jagex, I thank you for creating RuneScape, I have no shame admitting that it has been a part of my life. I hope that I am able to include it once again in my life, in its proper role as something not to take seriously, to spend too much time, but to give me enjoyment whenever I need it. But if you are to transform combat, please scrutinize carefully what you have right now, instead of alienating a player base that was merely a product of what you created. Took me about 40 mintues to write, what do you think? I'd like to post this on RS forums, but I wanted some feedback first. EDIT: trying not to make it look like a big wall of text haha RS thread: http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/c=qH...63762514,goto,4

good post

I love how 99% of people posting on this topic are all cynical and have no solutions towards this eminent problem. The moderators should make more of a push for a friendly community.

Honestly I shouldn't be posting on this site But OP's post has really touched me here. I completely and whole heartedly agree. ydoC, instead of being cynical you could approach his post with an open mind Guys were all going to be adults someday, we might as well get on with it, but the previous generation has ****** up pretty badly. The time will come when we have to step up or it be imposed on us, it's our choice. Starting on Pure Community would be a bit of a nice start, don't you think?

ir is shet zenith all day bitches

malice is clearly #winning

the reason why this topic is still open.... is the same reason why we cant post opts anymore.

Solid clan, carved a path that will forever be remembered. You will be missed.

Gud stuff. Keep it up

qft

come back when someone cares

Gj foe

If your proud of leading IR, you should really start showing a little more respect to them, rather than flame baiting on all of there topics :thumbsup: . OT: Defiance. I am proud, don't bring this crap on my topic, thank you.