Bob

He gave his opinion about "mini units" and ya'll got mad and pointed fingers at Epidemic. How does that make HIM ride anyone's nuts? either way I have no time for a pointless argument today so good job on your minis.

It's an opinion topic, if you have no opinion don't post a list noob. Top5 F2P FullOuts (assuming it would be possible to have a BH fight not crashed) [instant ML lock] 1) MM 2) FOE 3) TLP/Epidemic 5) Fatality

Charlie isn't in E...?

100% agreed.

Nice levels and good job on your wins.

I'm down.

Except the ~5 clans who went F2P on Sunday and all those who didn't go out? And I count Friday nights as the weekend trips, if your clan don't go out it's none of my business. Why do you think there's always "Friday" lists being posted here lol. @ rofl: As I said, if our usual P2P competition went F2P, what are we supposed to do? Go compete with FOE and MM lol? Obviously we would've done bad against clans who are already better than us in P2P. So instead we decided to have an unofficial F2P trip and we had a lot of fun. If you dont understand too bad cause that was as simple as it can get.

Yes I can lol. And let's follow your logic: "you can't rank E with those who P2P'd on Sunday because it wasn't possible for them to fight E". Same goes the other way, "you can't rank FI with those who F2P'd on Sunday because it wasn't possible for them to fight FI". Your logic doesn't make sense. And I did take in consideration the P2P Sunday for the weekend rankings, it's just that TLP & IR aren't on any of the other lists (Friday/Saturday). Now if you're not happy with my opinion, make another list where you can let it out and rank us 20th or some crap, I really could care less. Weekend Rankings 1) MM 2) FOE 3) Epidemic 4) Fatality 5) Corrupt Pures

1) I didn't say my lists were F2P & P2P. 2) 'Overall' definition by thefreedictionary.com Therefore, 'Overall Weekend Rankings' would have meant the rankings of the whole weekend. It's different than saying 'Overall Rankings'. I don't know who said that Overall = F2P & P2P but I'm gonna stick to the english language for this one. I also made a P2P Sunday list so I don't see why you're crying. 3) I didn't even mention overall so in case you can't understand english, your arguement is still wrong. 4) We went F2P this sunday cause all our usual P2P competition was doing F2P and we did not have enough numbers to compete with the clans we don't usually compete with. We had fun on our trip, I hope you had too. So once again, this is my 100% unbiased Weekend Rankings: Weekend Rankings 1) MM 2) FOE 3) Epidemic 4) Fatality 5) Corrupt Pures

This weekend's ranking: Last Friday 1) FOE 2) MM 3) Epidemic 4) Fatality Last Saturday 1) MM 2) FOE 3) Epidemic 4) CP / Fatality / Malice Sunday's F2P 1) Epidemic 2) Destructive Pures 3) Corrupt Pures 4) Calamity Sunday's P2P - From what I heard, unsure about most of it tho. 1) MM / FOE 3) IR / TLP 5) Fatality Weekend Rankings 1) MM 2) FOE 3) Epidemic 4) Fatality 5) Corrupt Pures This is 100% unbiased, and because IR will cry about it: No you did not beat us on Saturday, not even close, keep lying to yourself but other than P2P sunday, you did not accomplish anything this weekend, sorry.

Shame to see an influential clan go.

If you're sure you don't want to train, go for #Malice If you want to train a little, go for #Epidemic (Reqs are 80+ stat or 82+ mage) Good luck with your decision.

1) MM 2) FOE 3) Epidemic 4) CP / Fatality / Malice

crashing has become an excuse for losing fights just like "omg safer noob". We attack some clan fallen in, we're crashing, we attack a clan in single, we're crashing, we're ACing a fight and we attack a clan that crashes, we're crashing lol. It's really pathetic now. I believe there's as much crashing as thre use to be, maybe even less, it's just people use the term crashing for everything nowadays.

1) MM - Pulled much more than the below. Peaked at 90+? 2) FOE - Beat us. Was a good fight, thanks. 3) Epidemic - Lost to FOE, beat most of the below. Peaked at 70. 4) CP - Beat Fatality? Nice job! 5) Malice / Fatality - I think Malice was winning before CY+DP crashed.

^ Would really depend on pulls/timezone so really I can say DV but it's 50/50 imo. MM vs FOE - 100v100 F2P Cwars

One E member made a retarded remark and you generalise it to the whole clan, you don't see us doing that after every post you make? Good Job FOE.

ya, and we ended with 32.

Friday 1) FOE 2) MM 3) Epidemic 4) Fatality F2P Overall 1) MM 2) FOE 3) Epidemic 4) Fatality 5) Corrupt Pures 6) Devastation

Chris tried Epidemic and I think he left to be in CY with you? Either way if you guys want a clan your level with a nice community check us out. I'm Bawb[AFK] or [E]Bawb on IRC if you need me, don't hesitate to PM.

TLP EOP or IR

Removed response to the above, deleted, post here's my Top5's of the last few weeks. I believe it isn't biased towards any clan. Top 5 F2P 1) MM - Had nice pulls in the past few weeks. Been doing good. 2) FOE - Can beat MM on a good day but usually MM takes the win in F2P. 3) Epidemic - Went from constistent 60+ to consistent 70+. Still improving, once again, the next few weeks really depends on the members. 4) Fatality - Use to be clearly #3, Pulled ~40s and last Saturday pulled ~60. The next few weeks really depends on your members. If you guys want you could bounce back easily but you could also move down. 5) Corrupt Pures - Haven't ranked you in past list because I thought you were teamed up with SD but apparently it was only a few SD and nearly everyone was CP? If that is true, you've had a few nice pulls lately, keep it up. Top 5 P2P 1) FOE - Has been holding this for quite some time. MM beat you last weekend but from looking at the vids I believe they caught you fallen in. Keep up the good work or MM might take this. 2) MM - I've always known MM as the legendary P2P clan. That changed in the last year or so. I believe your core members are still P2P Based and you could take #1 here with some efforts. 3) TLP - This list is based on the last few weeks and you guys clearly deserve this spot. You guys have always beasted out wars but if you get a little more consistent on trips you could very easily be apart fo the Top3 on both servers but especially in P2P. 4) Devastation - Another Strong P2P Clan. Been trading wins with IR lately from what I heard but I believe you're still the stronger clan of the two. 5) IR - Been doing good in P2P. Overall 1) FOE - I would put MM tied up here but I don't want to put two clans on the same level. I believe you guys still have the edge because you can compete in F2P while MM only got one win on you in the last few weeks in P2P. 2) MM - Definitely here. Push a little harder in P2P and you could easily be #1 Overall. - Didn't want to put any gaps but there's clearly one here. Below this line it becomes harder... - 3) Fatality - I'll put them here because I think they have a tiny edge over DV and I didn't want to put two clans on the same rank. 4) Devastation - Strong clan on both servers. 5) Epidemic - IR is close behind but the edge we have over them in F2P is greater than the one they have on us in P2P. Damn, I'm so bored I even put colors... :lol:

I do agree with you that full out wars are more important than a trip. What I'm saying is the average of several trips should outweight a full out and that we give TOO much importance to full out wars. If you want numbers, I agree with your 60-40 but right now it's more like 90-10 lol.

what kind of question is this >.< Obviously P2P takes more "Skill". And it's more timing than skills but call it what you want.

Hey man, Epidemic has already been recommended so I'll drop a little advice. You should hang out in clan's IRC/Forums and talk to some members before rushing anything. If you have questions considering E, I'm [E]Bawb or Bawb[AFK] in #Epidemic or in #PureWarFare Make the right decision. :D