Bond

I hear what you are saying, but I think the majority of people here will disagree with you. It is much more impressive to be able to clear a clan multiple times in a row than to sprint away as soon as you get an advantage. If things worked your way, we would be opening up a can of worms because every fight would have discrepancies still - "omg u guys left when we were still returning" "last clan here we win" etc. things like that are opinion-based and no one will agree on them. My way, however, has a solution, and that is the kill tracker. I urge all the cans out there to start showing some solid evidence - real kill tracker numbers - when trying to claim a win this weekend, instead of just a screenshot with everyone spamming "[initials] cleared"

Agree with you. This all ties into what I mentioned in my thread I made this morning. Returning is what is causing all the problems. Addy daddies are encouraging returning. Clan A clears Clan B multiple times. Clan A has no prayer/food left so eventually Clan B gets a single clear, then immediately leaves with the win. Clan B claims their "great returning" won the fight, and Clan A dominated the whole fight so they claim the win. Solution: KILL TRACKERS Other Solution: Someone with 30 def, preferrably a rank of a clan that accepts addy daddies, needs to step up and make a new pure, and encourage other 30 def people to follow suit.

This is what I think of your topic.

No, its not spying and crashing (although those are definitely problems). I'm talking about RETURNING. I'm sure this has been an issue that every clan has faced over the last few months - each clan claims a win, and each has sufficient evidence proving the other wrong. This is a problem that coincidentally has only come up around the same time mass returning started. Take this situation - Clan A fights Clan B. Clan A clears Clan B, but as they are finishing off the last few tanks, Clan B has banked and is regrouping via canoes. Clan B then rerushes Clan A, who are low on supplies. Clan A pulls it together, though, through amazing organization and once again clears Clan B. However, the same thing happens, and Clan B banks, regroups, and rerushes as Clan A is trying to loot any food they can find. This time, however, Clan A has no prayer and no food left. Since every single one of them is low on supplies, no one can tank and on the 2nd rerush, Clan B clears Clan A in mere seconds, and since no one has the food to tank to stall, Clan B leaves the battlefield as fast as possible, claiming a win. Clan A finally returns and rerushes to find the battlefield empty, and they also claim a win. Who, in your opinion, is the winner here? Both clans have video evidence showing they cleared the other clan, so it's kind of hard to tell. In Clan A's perspective, they dominated the fight and were the last clan left, so they must have won. In Clan B's perspective, their "great returning" led them to victory. In my opinion, the winner is Clan A. I think what we need to consider doing is tracking kills throughout each fight. I know main clans do this on RSC, and this ends all discrepancies about who the "winners" are. What do you guys think?

Here is another perspective that shows the whole EF fight. Notice the multiple clearings.

gf to all clans. actually enjoyed my time on rs today lol

thx for the feedback

Nice music, I love Muse. no TH fight though? :(

It was us vs BV. It only became a cluster when you guys rushed in. Literally as we ran in MM and I think FOE (some blue clan, wasn't sure) ran in and we immediately went to single. At most we killed 2 people from your fight.

TH came to check out a cluster that you guys were involved in but we didn't attack anyone, then hopped. Call it "crashing" if you want but the only green capes we actually fought today were NME.

Couldn't go cuz of work, gj though TH, better luck next time M.

Agree and disagree. I'm respectful when I pk in the sense that I won't be like "omg safer n00b" "cya hick" etc. But when it comes to **** talking, alot of times I will say something usually right before the fight in an attempt to **** the other person off. You would be surprised how much this could actually throw someone off. This usually only applies to mains, however. For example, in f2p, a kid in full rune is eating everytime you hit more than 50. I might try to troll him and make him angry so he lets his hp go down a little more. Or if a kid is refusing to skull, I might try to **** him off to goad him into attacking me. Basically, my goal is to get your pixels, and I will sometimes do things in order to increase my chances of succeeding.

You guys should just fight in clan wars tbh so this bs doesn't happen.

Would agree, but this isn't the same wilderness we had in 07. Spies, crashing, flaming etc. are all rampant now and with barely any massers/mains out pking, its hard to blame people for resorting to such tactics.

Lessers. i am fatal - I've been inactive for 3 years and even when I used to play I barely ever trained.

You guys are all hypocrites. Everyone was in a masser clan at some point in time. I know what it feels like, and to be honest its downright disrespectful to constantly call a clan massers when they are learning to become legit. Congratulations on becoming official and dont listen to the immature kids here. Good luck.

Watched the vid. It appears 1 guy from NME did in fact attack 1st, then there was this awkward pause and then both clans rushed each other. Technically NME did attack first, but I don't think it had an impact on the final outcome cuz its not like BV were still setting up and completely unprepared...

Couldn't attend cuz I was working <_< Looked close though. Our fights are always flame free, feel free to prep us more often if you like it that way.

Hey guys, School will be starting up again in a few weeks and that most likely means I will be quitting/going super inactive once again. Before that happens though, I would like to reach a goal that I have been trying to reach since I started playing over 6 years ago, and that is to obtain a 90 stat. Of course maxed 99's would be nice, but in my situation, that just isn't a realistic goal. Now most of you probably know that I have never been p2p and I do all my training legit (except autoclicking for alch's, but who doesn't do that?). 90 Ranged nowadays is a relatively small achievement, however for a true old schooler like myself, I think it is a pretty big deal. Therefore, my goal is to reach 90 ranged before I go inactive again. I am currently 88 and have been training my ass off in order to make this possible. Any words of encouragement would be appreciated :)

Everyone that says they have no experience tends to be a spy lol

this gonna get UG-LY

Honestly it doesn't matter cuz Omni is gonna come and vote TH and his vote counts way more than any number the mortal mind can think of.

macro'ing new pw accounts to auto-vote TH

#the_hatred Pretty much everyone is 18+ which makes for a very mature community. Almost everyone also has held a rank in some clan at one time or another. Most people have known each other for years, which is also another great aspect of the clan. And we would love to add yet another old schooler to the community. As far as RS goes, we are f2p-based and are still a relatively small clan, but have been growing steadily for a few months now. We don't involve ourselves in flame wars or any of the garbage that goes on here because we do not post weekend topics. Come check out our irc channel and chat sometime.