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thats about the biggest piece of ******** as i have ever read. First off a pure is a pure. insanely low defence for high offensive. IDC there is not point in 13 prayer if your opponent is just goin to flop up overheads everytime, plus higher prayer lasts longer than 13 prayer. 13 prayer doesnt last that long in f2p battles, plus in p2p if you get smited its pretty much just a waste. A pure is not low attack. pretty much today everyone gets 60 attack for maximum damage in specs. a pure is 1 defence, but errors do occur they stack up over the years(look at mahatma hes 17 defence). most people get 20 after 11 defence for rune gloves, and better armor in f2p. fighting 20 def on a 1 def isnt bad its doable. But 30+ defence just makes it impossible without high attack bonus(whip and crossbow). 35+defence just makes it worse. Should pure clans accept 40-70 defence rangers because they max at the same combat as a max pure? no, even though you are going to yes cause u were dropped on your head as a child. You belong nowhere cause your account is obsolete. Idc if its effective, the statistics show that 40 def is more effective(no its not theory you adolescense). Almost every account in runescape is effective. its mostly just the guy behind the pker. Maybe team inc will accept you because thats the only place where you could remotely belong. *you max out at 90 combat, whereas a rp maxes out at 91* do you know how stupid that is? the bonuses are so op at 40 defence than comparing it to 30-35. With that being said the bonuses at 30+ compared to 20 or 1 are op. Loving the personal attacks; very cliche of someone speaking on behalf of pures and shows you can't hold your own without taking a debate to a personal level. Until you chill out any statement you have to make invalid; chill out... this is a runescape forum bro. You don't know the first thing about statistics...get 40 def for 1 strength bonus? thats a combat level for less than a fraction of a hit difference... if you want to say that is worth it; then the max hit difference between 40 and 45 is greater, so that is 2.5 combats. vengeance is useless on a hybrid. rune is extraneous and not needed. I'm a good hybrid and there is NEVER an excuse to switch to rune in a hybrid fight. if you are switching to rune; it's to defend against range or melee... if you are being ranged you switch to a melee weapon... if you're frozen and can't melee back you range back with no disadvantage whatsoever. If someone is meleeing you, it's time to freeze and tag with melee - if they are in dhides their melee defence is equivalent to adamant anyway... even then you can still melee hides in range armour as well with no disadvantage in the fight. /query Forty-Lashes in irc for more hybriding lessons. i stopped after loving personal attacks.... stop reading my statements in harsh tone and then make another reply and ill read

Forty, you live in an idealized world of pvp. and looking at my acc you are like damn 84 atk? yeah 70-84 atk pking with whip for a year. no point getting 80 dung on that account since i wouldn't ever use it. If u use range at drags, its instant prayer. so it doesnt matter whether im 70-99 range. thats about the biggest piece of ******** as i have ever read. First off a pure is a pure. insanely low defence for high offensive. IDC there is not point in 13 prayer if your opponent is just goin to flop up overheads everytime, plus higher prayer lasts longer than 13 prayer. 13 prayer doesnt last that long in f2p battles, plus in p2p if you get smited its pretty much just a waste. A pure is not low attack. pretty much today everyone gets 60 attack for maximum damage in specs. a pure is 1 defence, but errors do occur they stack up over the years(look at mahatma hes 17 defence). most people get 20 after 11 defence for rune gloves, and better armor in f2p. fighting 20 def on a 1 def isnt bad its doable. But 30+ defence just makes it impossible without high attack bonus(whip and crossbow). 35+defence just makes it worse. Should pure clans accept 40-70 defence rangers because they max at the same combat as a max pure? no, even though you are going to yes cause u were dropped on your head as a child. You belong nowhere cause your account is obsolete. Idc if its effective, the statistics show that 40 def is more effective(no its not theory you adolescense). Almost every account in runescape is effective. its mostly just the guy behind the pker. Maybe team inc will accept you because thats the only place where you could remotely belong. *you max out at 90 combat, whereas a rp maxes out at 91* do you know how stupid that is? the bonuses are so op at 40 defence than comparing it to 30-35. With that being said the bonuses at 30+ compared to 20 or 1 are op.

clan wars arena items lost on death everything on 1 def cap as close to pvp as possible

and yet u say nothing about the eop in foe capes and mains. yeah... fi were in fi capes, the only reason for them to have mm capes would be to not be atked. there are pics of fi atking mm, yes mm are in pink capes, so yeah there goes you little biased, lying statement? mm still lost

a pure in ur opinion is a pker, not a pure. There is a difference my friend. but most kids pray overheads cuz they suck at pking anyways nowadays, so u need 45 prayer

God is perfect God can do anything God also cannot do anything that goes against his perfectousness, though he could speaking of english...teach*

my acc jsut saying 45 def now, 45 def better. no point in arguing with a hard-headed person but w/e im done for the most part

please show me one hf cape, acutally 2 cuz there was 1 hf guy that showed up at the last minute of the fight. fi were atking mm today also, wud of been better if u just atked fi or the mains, but never attked the mains =[ w/e get your revenge

nice job today

yeah there was about 10 eop without prayer and energy in addy at chaos altar when u pushed eop from north fog to bh stairs? Gf eop wasn't cleared, mm lost because they didn't chase the addy daddys to chaos altar

yeh forgot about that random update i meant they last longer vs pures. And rune pures have the same inv that you do, just better armor. But rune pures take longer to complete than that build.

you must be a christian, at least at heart christians will think their belief is right until the end, no matter what the facts say. And no a pure still has as much chance to ko as every1 else thanks to phx necks. The rp will just last longer. All the time on the rp, it must have been good. This 35 "build" has been around since 2006. If this build was the best, you think more people would have it?

no offense but why wouldnt jack defend the truth. Do you want him to defend lies? Its a rhetorical question.

Ik you are new, but i never make assumptions. I make all my deductions from fact and push the facts as hard as possible which makes people think about things from a different perspective which causes the average person to revert to a barbaric state and just reject the truth. anything you can do a 40def can do better. Think about it. ponder it. And when you think you know the answer, start over and think about it again cuz its going to be wrong. Hit 1 damage higher doesnt mean much. you can around around barraging 466, but when ur in mystic ur going to get annihilated by range or melee. There are some people who like a challenge, the pures, and other people who take the easy way out, the rune pkers and you and the addy daddys. Its just you are putting urself at a disadvantage vs rune pures. But its not as much as pures face. If your goal is to make the best build then it would be the 40 def pker. Its like gettign 29 def turmol+rune gloves instead of getting 30 def. its just serves no purpose. the only thing you can say about your build is its not 40 defence or pure. just a stupid title to have

K guys im making a pure and i need to know what quests i need to do(and not do) to get 35 defense barrow gloves plz help no trolls are welcomed

least mm has the balls to go in pvp vs mains

I was 80 combat with 16 prayer 99 range, much lower combat than any rune pure... There is no advantage for me to get 40 def. 1 str bonus or 3 strength levels instead? Don't need vengeance because I hybrid and am an ancients always. The defence bonus isn't substantially higher - there's no setup 40 def has that 35 can't counter. If 40 defence is in rune they're frozen, if they're in d'hide they're scim'd, and if they're in mystic they're screwed. Agile is versatile armour that defends against all styles and gives no negative attack bonuses to hybrid in... similar to void. As far as slayer goes... I'm 84 combat with 73 slayer, I have no trouble whatsoever with it... that's an assumption, and is irrelevant at that. Just curious why you'd compare 35 def to 40 instead of 45... why not 45? because a zerker helm isnt worth the higher combat level? Guess what, a zerker helm is 3 strength bonus higher than 40... so the difference between 40 and 45 def is 3x more substantial than 35-40 with 1 strength bonus gained instead of 3... I'm app'ing for dont panic when I'm 90 combat, I'd rather be in a team of hybrids than a clan of people with accounts based around a single style of combat like rune pures and tanks. ok then. and... didnt say zerker because statius helm. also could of said 42 for void. could of said 40 for f2p bonuses, not everything is p2p. Also 90 combat would mean you are melee based and maxed. and 1 combat from being maxed with 52 prayer. Agile armor has no magic atk bonus so you would still need mystic, black d hide better defence and magic def bonuses than agile, rune armor has better bonuses than addy(legs being 60% better, plate being 15 bonuses better) most rune pkers don't max out there combat stats like you did and arent 16 prayer so ofc their stats wont compare to urs.. just saying that a rune pker is only 1.15 combat higher and has better advantages than 35 and a little stronger offensive(also defense is a significant factor in offense). If you're not going to say zerker because of statius helm - then don't say rune pure because of statius platebody/legs. 42 for void? My magic bonus in agile is still better than 1-10 defs, don't pull that card because if they can hit then I can hit. Rune pures aren't more powerful at my level... Whole point of void is hybrid tribrid. 20% to range, 10% to str and atk, and now with the shield u can hit higher than u used to as a rune pker. and no ur magic bonus in agile is worse than 1-10. IDC, the whole point of pures is to have fun pking and for it to be challenging. Rune pures still rip ur account, no im srry it still does don't tell me that people at your level have crap stats because its irevelant. They can have the same stats as you minus 2 range levels, 3 str levels. But have way better defensive which means more offensive bonus than you. It is a fact and don't even try to argue you im tired of dealing with some hard-headed kid with an attitude How are you going to tell me a rune pure owns me when I have 6 berserker helms sitting in my pk tab right this second. I barrage 466, anyone I see running around in rune on pvp world is a dead fish... first time a combo rolls out there's nothing they can do. You don't have an account like mine and it's extremely pretentious to tell someone that does what their account can and can't kill. Rune pures are a problem for 1 def, not for me. Find me a rune pure thats in the 85 combat area and I'll show you the meaning of a tank test, I've been waiting months to find one that can pose a challenge - if you know of one - I want that fight. Under 10 magic bonus? Are you trolling? even in ADDY BERSERKER SHIELD, I'm in at least 55+ magic bonus... followed through with about 150 all defence. 1-10 defense i was referring to, and no ur not 55+ in multi gear, ur 48 atm(in agile), and 1 def is 54 atm. e p i c l y is 50 atk 82 cmb, dont know tho hes just an edge hero but he could be a good brid So you are saying a rp cannot barrage a 466, run around barrage rune kids in a pvp world making them a dead fish, they cant make a combo roll out like there's nothing you cant do. Im saying is you in 40 def 2 range levels lower 3 str levels lower vs you in 35 def, 40 def is going to win and for the last time, the difference between ur account and a pure account, is that mastering the pure account is a challenge, while there is no challenge with your account.

I was 80 combat with 16 prayer 99 range, much lower combat than any rune pure... There is no advantage for me to get 40 def. 1 str bonus or 3 strength levels instead? Don't need vengeance because I hybrid and am an ancients always. The defence bonus isn't substantially higher - there's no setup 40 def has that 35 can't counter. If 40 defence is in rune they're frozen, if they're in d'hide they're scim'd, and if they're in mystic they're screwed. Agile is versatile armour that defends against all styles and gives no negative attack bonuses to hybrid in... similar to void. As far as slayer goes... I'm 84 combat with 73 slayer, I have no trouble whatsoever with it... that's an assumption, and is irrelevant at that. Just curious why you'd compare 35 def to 40 instead of 45... why not 45? because a zerker helm isnt worth the higher combat level? Guess what, a zerker helm is 3 strength bonus higher than 40... so the difference between 40 and 45 def is 3x more substantial than 35-40 with 1 strength bonus gained instead of 3... I'm app'ing for dont panic when I'm 90 combat, I'd rather be in a team of hybrids than a clan of people with accounts based around a single style of combat like rune pures and tanks. ok then. and... didnt say zerker because statius helm. also could of said 42 for void. could of said 40 for f2p bonuses, not everything is p2p. Also 90 combat would mean you are melee based and maxed. and 1 combat from being maxed with 52 prayer. Agile armor has no magic atk bonus so you would still need mystic, black d hide better defence and magic def bonuses than agile, rune armor has better bonuses than addy(legs being 60% better, plate being 15 bonuses better) most rune pkers don't max out there combat stats like you did and arent 16 prayer so ofc their stats wont compare to urs.. just saying that a rune pker is only 1.15 combat higher and has better advantages than 35 and a little stronger offensive(also defense is a significant factor in offense). If you're not going to say zerker because of statius helm - then don't say rune pure because of statius platebody/legs. 42 for void? My magic bonus in agile is still better than 1-10 defs, don't pull that card because if they can hit then I can hit. Rune pures aren't more powerful at my level... Whole point of void is hybrid tribrid. 20% to range, 10% to str and atk, and now with the shield u can hit higher than u used to as a rune pker. and no ur magic bonus in agile is worse than 1-10. IDC, the whole point of pures is to have fun pking and for it to be challenging. Rune pures still rip ur account, no im srry it still does don't tell me that people at your level have crap stats because its irevelant. They can have the same stats as you minus 2 range levels, 3 str levels. But have way better defensive which means more offensive bonus than you. It is a fact and don't even try to argue you im tired of dealing with some hard-headed kid with an attitude

I was 80 combat with 16 prayer 99 range, much lower combat than any rune pure... There is no advantage for me to get 40 def. 1 str bonus or 3 strength levels instead? Don't need vengeance because I hybrid and am an ancients always. The defence bonus isn't substantially higher - there's no setup 40 def has that 35 can't counter. If 40 defence is in rune they're frozen, if they're in d'hide they're scim'd, and if they're in mystic they're screwed. Agile is versatile armour that defends against all styles and gives no negative attack bonuses to hybrid in... similar to void. As far as slayer goes... I'm 84 combat with 73 slayer, I have no trouble whatsoever with it... that's an assumption, and is irrelevant at that. Just curious why you'd compare 35 def to 40 instead of 45... why not 45? because a zerker helm isnt worth the higher combat level? Guess what, a zerker helm is 3 strength bonus higher than 40... so the difference between 40 and 45 def is 3x more substantial than 35-40 with 1 strength bonus gained instead of 3... I'm app'ing for dont panic when I'm 90 combat, I'd rather be in a team of hybrids than a clan of people with accounts based around a single style of combat like rune pures and tanks. ok then. and... didnt say zerker because statius helm. also could of said 42 for void. could of said 40 for f2p bonuses, not everything is p2p. Also 90 combat would mean you are melee based and maxed. and 1 combat from being maxed with 52 prayer. Agile armor has no magic atk bonus so you would still need mystic, black d hide better defence and magic def bonuses than agile, rune armor has better bonuses than addy(legs being 60% better, plate being 15 bonuses better) most rune pkers don't max out there combat stats like you did and arent 16 prayer so ofc their stats wont compare to urs.. just saying that a rune pker is only 1.15 combat higher and has better advantages than 35 and a little stronger offensive(also defense is a significant factor in offense).

not a h8r, change your perspective if you see facts as something else besides facts =]

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pretty pro

he was wise beyond his age

also u are 1 combat lower than a rune pker. 1.15-2.15 lower. Not 5-9 like you said on your app. idk where your math skills went after grade school, but if i type ur current stats and max stats into a calc, you are only 1 combat lower than a rune pker. A rune pker has all the same bonuses as you except they have 1 str bonus more,a significant higher defensive bonus, vengeance, and eaiser to slay/boss.

u max at 104, they max at 108. ur account is pker, nota pure. go join hf and to every1 with 30+ def go join hf too well then 1 def pures max at 98 combat... You probably looked up 99 attack 99 strength - well first off... I'd never slaughter my hybrid with 99 attack and over 12 combat levels like that. Secondly, when I was 16 prayer, I would have maxed at 99... But I'm ranged based and am staying that way - so 86 combat isn't something to concern yourself with. Turmoil pures are 19 combats more main than I'll ever be. with 60 atk u max at 91 cmb, turmoilers max at 95. so technically turmoilers are 4 cmbs more main then ull ever be. Basically turmoil = 4 cmbs higher with the same build as u only swapping 5/7 defence levels for 95 prayer. idk still think a turmoiler ur cmb wud be better. on another note hf does have those kinds of accounts, but not accept. Lets say you accept a kid with 80 99 75, he stays in for 18 months, becomes hc, then he slowly trains to 99 atk because of hybridding(u use whps when bridding in case u didnt know, no ss, and rapiers dont last forever). Well obviously its going to be very hard to boot him, and will just weaken the clan morally and reputation wise. That is one reason why mains aren't accepted. hf is a high rp/tank build clans. MM and foe are a pure/low defence clan. Eop,tlp,ir,ex,z,cy,fi,etc are in between pure and rps