ok so your saying foe, eop, tlp, cp all allowed 30 def to keep them from closing? you're delusional
I'm not trying to flame or flame bait or anything because this topics actually pretty good, but putting EOP/FOE in the same "group" as CP isn't correct.
EOP and FOE have proven that they can be consistently top clans without addy, FOE wear robes on trips and have shown that when they can be bothered they can smash #1 any time of the year. EOP have stopped wearing addy and even though they still got quite alot of mith, have proved that they can be consistently #1 without the use of 30 def armours and without actually relying on their defence to see them through the day.
Now, if CP, IR, Zenith, Venom et cetera stopped wearing addy there would be a dramatic decrease in clan strength in the wildy, which simply hasn't happened to EOP/FOE.
I don't think its a coincidence that the top 3 clans are all clans that don't use addy on PK trips (FOE/MM/EOP), the leaders are obviously good at what they do or their clans wouldn't be the 3 best in the community and they have realised addy isn't all its cracked up to be.
Personally I don't care if the clans my clan compete with wear addy/mith etc, we still have fun and even though we're all in robes/dhide we've proven we can step up and negate the addy/levels with a combination of organisation and numbers, which makes things very fun. Outside of all the trolling etc that my clan partakes in in terms of clans who have different defence requirements, I truly like that not all clans are the same and some accept mith, some accept addy, and believe that the respective leaders can run their clan however they wish
Sorry to Omni for hijacking the topic and sorry to anyone reading, the argument i presented above isn't very articulate and probably makes little sense but IM TOO TIRED AND ITS MY BIRTHDAY. Any clans mentioned, don't take it personally pls It really isn't intended that way in this particular instance
Now, to stay on topic
Above I explained clans can run themselves however they like but for the sake of discussion, I think 35 defence in particular is stupid, but clans will do whatever they can to get the edge on their opponents and quite rightly too. The general consensus is that Mith is "OK" when calling someone a pure, despite the obvious hardliners who don't call anything above 5/10 defence pure. However, with the influx of addy and the changing of the times I think calling this community a "Pure" community isn't correct, the pure clans that exist today are pretty limited (NME with the 10 def cap, MM, TH only accept 20 def I believe) and the other clans that accept addy and wear addy i wouldn't call pure clans, more like turmoil clans obviously inspired by the pure clans in the past.
TLDR; 35 defence isn't accepted by "pure clans" and they arn't "pures", its simply evolution of a community thats been around for 7 years
Sorry had to jump on the bandwagon and say: Happy birthday you stinky English literature major.
I'm still older than you bwahah.
Oh and to add onto the actual topic:
I'm seeing a lot of really disappinting posts obviously. But the most glaringly annoying one in particular is the "OH I DON'T CARE LLOLOL" on.
If you don't care don't play the game? Lol.
It's like the same exact **** as when people suck or completely fail. And this is about to apply to every single aspect in life: If you don't care, why are you upset over it? Why do people deny the fact that you DO INDEED CARE, and that you WISHED YOU WERE BETTER?
Here's an example on RS: A kid sucks because he gets dropped in a p2p mini 5v5, not because he got d scimmed and hit by 4 ch mauls. But he dropped to low range hits, and ice barrage. He had no pho neck on and didn't rocktail brew combo. The clan leader, or whoever leads the mini yells at the kid, tells him to pick his **** up, etc. The fellow who sucked proceeds to ******** about not caring, and then ends up rage quitting and coming back with 30+ trained defense.
Believe it or not I've seen this happen. It's pathetic and the lowest of the low kind of mindset than any individual can ever have - but it's prominent here and it's prominent in the real world.
People take advantage, adapt, and change. Hence the 30 def. And don't even get me worked up about how stupid adamant is in f2p. It's a COMPLETE advantage in f2p particularly because you don't have barrage and godswords or mauls whopping on you with rune rune chain (full adamant). Any player with common sense and half decent "warring skills" (lol as if RS was actually a hard game to play), would never EVER EVER EVER DIE, on a trip. You can drag and tank literally 20 mains from hills to level 1 with full addy on, it's that much of a joke.
Sure enough I see clans that stand up to addy, and hold their ground, I truly applaud them for it (MM, Nme) however at the end of the day, what is there to stop people going 40 def? In fact I've already been hearing some rumors about people in certain "pure clans" having 40+ def.
It's up to us to keep the community stabilized, traditional, and above all fun. But it really doesn't look to be goin' so well.