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Good **** Rino <3

I have to agree with you lmfao. It looks like a Lizard tail l0l and nothing in game looks good with it. Hopefully they do an update because when it was first announced I was hoping it was like the normal Firecape with a particle trial or someshit like there is on the comp cape

Blame Dissy my ***** <3 Bigryan + Tru

Good Job Fatality and BAMF.

Direct Link= Subscribe to www.youtube.com/mikeimyes and www.youtube.com/guthixgoats #Goats. #1 1-45 Def Team. Shout outs to the TeamSpeak Crew that made 50m+ Brews/Restores/Overloads and 12+ Hours of Caping happen: Monk Juniors (Old school HF/#Havoc Elder/#WickedFury) (Wave 1-30) Diving Range (Old School HF/Havoc/Current #ROT) (Wave 30-37) Arrow (Ex HF/Current FOE/AF/Leader of #Goats) Skape (Old School HF/EOP) Johnny_Jimbo (Old School HF) Yes Im Mike (Old school VH/HF) Trey (Andyy Sixx) (Old School HF) Mack - Ex HF and Leader of #Havoc aka the Saradomin Seagulls Also grats to the dude from Fatality for doing it at 30 Defense.

can I get your number furious? We should go out on a date or something

apparently the majority of you haven't been mains or know **** about a rune pure... It isn't the rune that makes it better versus a turmoil pure/pure/******** main/range tank its the combination of 1) having access to Vengeance and the lunar spell book (recoiling massive hits), and 2) Having a massive increase in strength bonus - B gloves, Torso, Zerk Helm, Rune Defender, Void of all 3 types. Dhide tops/rune plate/legs are just gravy. I've always thought that a 30 def account is like an unfinished zerker. The content that you can unlock is amazing, and the combat levels are meaningingless. 2 CB's from 30-45. It will happen eventually. Not because anyone here has the balls to force it. But because as I have said repeatedly.. Jagex updates their game and content. They WILL come out with something in the future that requires a gain in defense xp. Anyone who is 30-35 def who would want to have it would become so close to rune or would in fact have access to rune that it will force it upon pure clans.

I guess I see why you don't want to do anything for fear of being the next target. Oh well. **** sucks. wish it was different

Banning a clan for an individuals action will not happen, ever. If one person from Foe DDoSes, I wouldn't ban the whole of Foe, I'd ban the individual, simply because one person does not represent an entire clan. /End. Its banning for not taking any action against the individual. The Clan can only be blamed if they don't take a stance against it. Can't control some retard sending out phish links, I agree. Also the leader can't be blamed for his first off action. What they can control however is allowing the person to associate with the clan. If they want to harbour someone doing illegal ****, they should lose their right to post. Plain and simple. Its all about how much you want to do or involve yourself. If you have already given up, then yeah. Edit: We had a situation in FOE with a dude getting in who had hacked and scammed people in his previous clan. He got in because he was close friends with the High Council of the FOE. If losing your PW eligibility was on the table the fruitcake wouldn't of got past the door, similarly to how a kid who scammed TLP members was told not till you pay **** back because he didn't know any of the higher ups.

kind of an unfair shot at sefket. but yeah i'd rather see you do something then nothing but hey if your already worn out from trying and feeling its a waste of time nothing I can do. @karl - theres nothing irrational about banning a clan off the forums for a public hacking or ddosing threat.

Your completely wrong. You can change it. Don't let them post. Plain and simple. Yeah it cuts down your sites activity, but its people participating in seemingly illegal measures to benefit in a game. Do nothing and everyone remembers you as ******* when this community dies. Do something and fail and everyone remembers you at least tried. Do something in the face of failure and achieve even alittle bit of success and your the communities champion. MM was banned from these boards for doing something in game you disliked. Remove their ban would be a step in teh right direction to restoring this community. Then as an Admin of these boards have a round table discussion with clan leaders. Talk about a collective repeal in order to focus on better things that have been mentioned. You can only do as much as your willing to do. If your not willing to do anything so be it.

You can't control the way in which jagex updates the game. It happened. People took advantage of it. Your no better then someone who is 30 def. Your definition is just different. Come to the table half way on the issue. You don't need to accept 30 def yourself, but its time to cut the crap and not preach to others how they play their runescape.com account. MM is just as integral as any other clan. They should remove the ban, you guys should start posting and be apart of the community solution that has to do with out of game ****. Before you can do this though you need to be humble enough to know you can't change how a 14 year old kid levels his runescape account.

The reasoning behind it doesn't matter. If they are hacking for GP or if they are hacking out of vengeance or spite. Reality is if nothing is done about it now, it will happen again in the future. It also doesn't change the fact that clans have been lax on ddosing and hacking. I know for a fact that most of you know someone who does **** and so do the leaders but its the whole "without solid proof and public embaressment I turn the other cheek" If you can form a renewed set of community ideals. You can change a shrinking ****** community into a good one. 1) One of the ideals thats a hot topic right now is defense. Reality is no matter how badly MM or NME or an LPC clan wants to change it, it won't change the peoples accounts are already 30 def. So instead lets fix it with gear. No addy on Trips like Havoc just did. All of PCL should be 1 def. In order to post a topic on PW aftermath it has to be 1 def armour. Yeah I agree for those that think its a problem it doesn't completely solve it, but it meets them half way and thats ALL you can ask. 2) Honor: Redefine it. If you want to pk without teleports go ahead. Clans agree to a code here and now that we focus on getting rid of hacking and ddosing and focus on everyone having fun. Maybe its refined in the sense of No Teleporting on Saturday/Sunday trips - that way if one clan bests the other everyone dies out honorably. I see nothing wrong with that. 3) Hacking/DDosing: Let this define the new sense of honor. Any clan that refuses to take action, or shelters someone who hacks or Ddos's gets a warning from a PW Mod. if they don't act accordingly they dont post their aftermaths until **** is solved. They dont participate in PCL, and they don't participate in any PW event. The goal at the end of the day should encourage people to play the game. The more people who play the more action there is for all. With that said if people aren't pking as clans because they can't be ****** to lose gear, or maybe its bringing a yak to wests, not having fun yourself, and everyone who fights you thinks its gay... what are you doing? Hacking people and ddosing teamspeaks obviously don't lead to more events/fun - maybe the cheap laugh that the person whose doing it gets, but it restricts the other party - restircting action. It will be interesting to see what happens or if ill have to read a topic 3 monthes from now "Legendary Failed Again hacked for 58 defense"

Also remove MM's ******* ******** ban from posting on pure warfare, as an effort on behalf of the Pure Warfare staff to reunite the community under new common ideals. Crashing something is part of something in game. They didn't ddos every clans TS and then hit and crash them like headless chickens. You fix nothing in this community by banning a major power player on the weekends for acting IN GAME. Anyone whose against it is ******* retarded. If your EOP and want to hurt MM who do you fight in F2p? and if your FOE and want to hurt MM who do you fight in P2p? Community only exists if there is people to form it. Remove the ban, let them add to the conversation.

Similarly to what I posted on his topic but in a shorter form: Back when teleporting and praying were an issue that was actually considered dishonorable ddosing did not exist, and hacking was because of stupidity not because there were active mechanisms to trap people such as phishing, drivebys etc. We were all young. We didn't have access or know how to do go this far. The only people who got hacked were people who trusted someone else. I propose the following: We redefine Honor and the PureWarfare Community takes a HARD stance on hacking/ddosing. Honor Today includes teleing/praying/tagging all that ********. Thats all apart of gameplay and keeping it in game is honestly fine. You should do everything you possibly can in a game to win, as long as it is IN GAME. Placing an emphasize on in game **** that you can't do has just masked the real problem with people making fallacies such as your less likely to ddos if your not teleporting in game. Thats retarded and its not true. **** half of us have second accounts that we tele on, but do half of us hack/scam/ddos? Vote amongst yourselves that the leaders of the Big Honor clans collectively repeal Teleing/Praying and other in game ****, and focus on removing scum bags who hack and ddos. I think it would be ideal for each clan leader to post on this. I can guarantee that MM/FOE/TLP/EOP/FI or any other major honor clan I may have forgot does not allow teleing because they fear the response or sense of failure that might come with it. If everyone else does it. You can't fail. It becomes the norm. So with that said focus on the real dishonorable problem. Not a image of the past. Enforce real honor.

Read all 5 pages of the thread. Omni I appreciate your perspective in terms of Real Life **** is too far, but also IN GAME **** is too far. I feel bad for anyone who has had their account "ruined." But thats the basic ******* problem. It's not ruined. The game is meant to be played to its fullest extent. Your supposed to level defense eventually. Your supposed to conquer new things in game. New challenges. Appreciate new quests and content. To be frank as an Ex HF member who fought along side you for almost a year it makes me sick to read some of the **** your members post or how you treat other people on this game because of something so arbitrary as a defense level. When I first started up #goats which was basically a team for HF rune pures only who were willing to take pure style fighting seriously. HF was non competitive in pure style fights because the members thought it was silly or stupid. We had no clue what we were doing. We asked MM if you guys would be willing to give us some fun rounds and basically "teach us" how to play ball in a 1 defense curses off style mini. Your ranks replied "**** off we dont help mains." Keep in mind the majority of the goats at the time were HF rune pures for the past idk year +. We bailed your ass's out in P2p for the entire last spring whenever you were hunted. We meatshielded for you. Lost sets. Gave up more fun things + loot to help you guys out. Yet when we asked for yours it was a no because of something stupid like defense. The posts you guys make on these forums are ******* retarded. Saying that defense ruined the community. No it ruined your community, but not someone elses. Defense I guarantee expanded TLP's EOP's FOE's or any other clan that accepted it. If you didn't place such a dumb ******* value on being low defense and focused on having the most fun you would have already adapted to what is considered pure today. Instead you feel there is some sort of moral high ground by staying low defense, and you literally PREACH on a game to other people how they should play it. I see this situation pretty simply. Yeah the ddosing/hacking is ********, it should stop. Do you want it to stop? HERE IS HOW: Repeal your "honor" rules. Place less of an emphasize on teleing in a game, and place it highly on Hacking/Ddosing. The only way people hacked back in the day was based off someone giving their pass up. DDoSing didn't exist. We were all 12 worrying about gaining range levels, not building botnets or purchasing booters off hack forums. Have MM be the first clan to repeal teleing/praying and take a massive stance on hacking/ddosing. Clans will follow suit, and this community will change for the better. People will actually go out and pk together. The wild will be reborn, and we can wash out the dooshbags who hack and ddos. In order to do this, you guys need to stop being dooshers with defense. You guys need to stop preaching about it. You guys need to attend to your own business and you guys need to focus on having fun. If you want to stay 1-20 defense by all means go ahead, but don't act like you are better then someone else because of it, prove it on weekend trips and keep it at that. As an olive branch, If you guys decide to do this ill personally give 13th a pure account. Its not perfect, and it can never replace what he lost. But its a start, and its more then anyone else is offering. Champion fixing the real problem. Be the first clan to have the balls to challenge Hacking/Ddosing, and forget about petty **** such as defense/teleing/praying. Be the change you wish to see - Redefine Honor, and you will have my respect forever.

THIS IS WHY LOKI IS THE BEST PURE CLAN LEADER EVER. HE JUST GOES HARD LIKE A MEXICAN IN A TOMATO FIELD ALL DAY. HOLY **** DID I JUST MAKE AN ANALOGY THAT WAS REALLY A DOUBLE ANALOGY LOL HOLY ****. #SEAGULLS SHOUT OUTS TO DIVING RANGE FOR TOUCHING MY FATHER LAST NIGHT

whats your IRC Channel?

i'd like to see HF and POT added. They don't fight anyone else but pures in reality. It does not hurt to add them, and honestly X0 I think your argument is weak in terms of hunting pure clans. Obviously they wont be allowed to post, but if someone posts saying they smashed either HF or POT it adds to their proof if either clans kdr is absolutely poo

BOYS THE ZEBRAS ARE ATTACKING

Don't mention their name in my presence. :verymad: Your a bad ass. Love the name

gl closing next month, already have spies in ur clan Kk mr foe member wasn't I the one who reduced your main ally Serenity from a decent Main Team to inactive clan wars team? I think they lost like 50m total this gwas haha o rite haha. I was haha

I figured 1-3 was safe cuz sometimes I put it on defensive mode to live on the wild side

y wont u mini us =( When you say you're a mini team, I'm under the impression you mean clan wars. We don't use clan wars. And we don't really mini in the wild much anymore. Fist of Guthix Full out?

y wont u mini us =(