Curry

retards gonna retard, see you next weekend

Not a single FOE member was spotted. Considering FI had the return spot from the south and MM was to the north how would you even know FOE was from the south? Your statement doesn't even make sense. Then explain to me why your own members were spamming off at the same time as our callers were saying the same thing? And since you and FOE are buttbuddies and their scouts/spies saw what was happening, they decided to stay away. I honestly don't know if you're just playing dumb or if you actually are. Your members certainly are though, if you managed to convince them that our prep was cancelled because MM wanted sol on, rather than the fact that you didn't want to do dangerous. Gl next weekend, you'll definitely need it. Again you have no idea what you are talking about lol. Since I was main caller for the entire fight start to finish never died so there was never a time when I wasn't calling that fight not once did we ever spam off MM. Not once did we see a FOE member and not once would it have mattered. Watch that video that fight ended in the first 2 minutes. If FOE crashed we agreed to team on crash so the smart thing to do would've been let them to crash and have them get hammered like MM usually does crashing us. The prep was canceled because MM apparently can't read. We accepted PW rules, PW rules changed so did the rules. The only point in ever having that prep was for practice in the tourny. ( Which had SOL on ) Our initial agreement was specific to the point of PW rules. Even before the prep was accepted the rules were "safe." Then after they were tweaked slightly more to allow body body and rune gloves. The prep was canceled for the simple fact a dangerous prep is nothing remotely close to what PW Tournament rules are. TL;DR MM canceled for not staying up with the rules. I know you don't lose often so going down with dignity isn't something you're very practiced in, but buck up and take the loss like a man. 1. We have never gotten hammered crashing you. If that's what you think has been happening every weekend for the past month then I truly feel sorry for your members. 2. If you watch your own vid (the second one, you can see all the white dots north as the vidder dies trying me lol - notice how I wasn't even attacking anyone before you piled me, I offed the kid with the poly and started trying to go north). Then if you go to ~3:25 in the first one you can see loads of white dots going north and the chat calling for us to off you. 3. Since when has MM been related to PW? The rules were dangerous at the time the prep was accepted, seeing as 13th scuttled our attempt to join the tourney (when it was still dangerous) on the grounds that we already had preps with you and TLP with the original rules. Even then, why would you decline a prep against 40 1 def pures with bankloot in runes and sols on them? TL;DR MM is not a part of PW so I don't understand why our prep would have any relation to those rule changes, your own vid shows that I was right, and you can only mislead our own members so much. If you really think you have been "hammering" MM the past couple weeks then I pity you. I know you don't get too much resembling a win often so you're not used to telling the truth, but you should really try it for once and acknowledge the facts.

Not a single FOE member was spotted. Considering FI had the return spot from the south and MM was to the north how would you even know FOE was from the south? Your statement doesn't even make sense. Then explain to me why your own members were spamming off at the same time as our callers were saying the same thing? And since you and FOE are buttbuddies and their scouts/spies saw what was happening, they decided to stay away. I honestly don't know if you're just playing dumb or if you actually are. Your members certainly are though, if you managed to convince them that our prep was cancelled because MM wanted sol on, rather than the fact that you didn't want to do dangerous. Gl next weekend, you'll definitely need it. You "more or less cleared" the 10-20 people on the south of our spread, we had way more than you on the north. I can't argue when you just outright lie, I really don't know if it's just ignorance or stupidity.

There were no excuses for the second fight, we did ****. Thanks for the fights foe. One thing though, I think you should give your leader a tour of the wilderness if he thinks that single is southwest of GDZ. I can see the day where he calls for the clan to bail southwest to single and gets annihilated at gap.

Ok this comment is going to get deleted but idgaf. You guys are so full of **** lmfao...With FOE about to crash, our leaders called off FI so we stopped. Your members, including the one I had just redbarred started spamming off, so I and the rest of MM offed and started going north. A second later, the same kid whose worthless life I had just spared froze me and 3 more FI kids went in for specs...? We continued up through gap expecting you to get off so that we could deal with the expected FOE rush from the south but you just kept sniping and killing our members instead of teaming as agreed upon. Having lost like 20 people from the fight + your ******** and being low on food, we logged. It's pretty obvious your clan can't fight us fairly...you even cancelled your matched, crash-free dangerous prep against us lol I hope you enjoyed your "win" because it'll be the only one you get against MM for a very long time.

Only if you take MDMA while listening to it :teehee:

Nice curses L

If you're 1 def join MM, every other "good clan" (interpreting good as HPC) will treat you like a second-class member because you don't have turmoil.

I would say MM but you would probably be expected to put a ton more work into your account before getting accepted (94 mage, 80+ dungeoneering) so if you're not that driven then I would suggest looking into an MPC. Which clan you join will depend primarily on your preferences regarding f2p or p2p. I would try Zenith or Enemy maybe if you like f2p more but want to experience both aspects of clanning, and NPO or Frenzy if you want to be more p2p based. I'm not entirely sure of their requirements so I can't say whether or not you meet them but if you do some research and talk to some people in those clans, I'm sure you'll find a home. Gl searching.

MM has a lot of amazing accounts (crap people using them, but give a donkey a big ***** and it will still get it hard) but they are all stubborn and even with failed defence levels which look ugly and are not 1 they wouldnt get turm. Shame. >implying 30 isn't a failed def level :D

Why did my post get deleted? So much for "pure"-warfare

The problem is that your rules of choice are 20 def cap curses off, which most of us don't have. Our rules of choice are 1 def curses off, which both sides can use. Our rules make it fairer for both sides, though you still have the advantage of much higher def levels, pray levels (not really too much of a factor though), and higher defensive and strength bonuses (rune gloves, body bodies, etc.). Also, the one time you gave us our rules of choice, you left after one round. That hardly warrants us giving you your rules of choice. Also, almost nobody in MM cares about safe clan wars, or even dangerous for that matter. An unrestricted fight wilderness is the true measure of a clan's strength. I don't know why we even made a PW topic lol

I won't even bother responding to all the ignorance in kruck's post, for once I agree with walli lol.

I wonder how many pages this topic will be after the mods come through

Yeah you didn't win the first fight lol and you werent down 19...you peaked at 71 and we peaked at 76. Still, thanks for the fights, especially since you were down a few both times. Look forward to more clean fights like the two we had today in the future.

wtf we're not fairies, we're the mighty muffin makers! Gj on your trip looks like you owned

1. MM 2. FOE (gj and thanks for fights, looks like you're coming back) 3. FI 4. NME 5. EOP

lol.. just lol..everyone knows by now mm would not win in the fair fight, which is why all of this happened. the venging, the attackin on our round. but ive realized i cant really blame mm, they just do what they gotta do, which really isnt a bad thing i guess. if you want a no rules fight like you said, i suggest telling 13th, cause he doesnt want to do it. lol.. just lol.. 1. You were venged as well 2. Group veng doesnt do anything unless we clump so people barraging get hit by multiple veng's at once, and that would be retarded. 3. We hopped to every world you chose...the clan that hops to the other clan's world attacks first round. 4. You have a spy on our ts who warns every pile before each round starts, surely he could have told you that we were attacking? Not to mention the fact that you guys cheated so much...If you accept a prep with certain rules (1 def cap and dangerous in this case), you're expected to follow those rules. If you didn't want it dangerous then you shouldn't have accepted it in the first place, and if you didn't want a 1 def cap you shouldn't have accepted it either, instead of showing up in 30 def gear and curses. And no, you're not fooling anyone when you say the prep was always meant to be safe. You know just as well as we do that it was meant to be dangerous and if you truly believed that it was supposed to be safe you wouldn't have fought us for two rounds. Also, why are clans so against dangerous preps against 40 tiny 1 def pures with juicy mage loots on them?

Everyone in this community hates each other but they all want to remain in pure clans, so there will never be one "superclan." New clans will form and several of the clans that closed will most likely reopen.

We would get slightly better at matched opts because like 10 people would get turmoil, but that would be more than offset in the wilderness by the fact that a lot of people would probably leave and MM accepting turmoil would only happen over 13th's dead body, meaning we would have lost our best leader.

It was kind of a joke of a prep with all the squabbling over rules and the group veng (though it hardly does anything since at most you hit one venged person at a time), but it's still a shame that you guys don't stay for all 3 rounds of dangerous preps with us, first the summoning one then this one. Thanks for the rounds, even with the cheating etc. It would be cool to get more of these dangerous fights.

Because foe is happy to fight the fight, we dont need advantages to win. now why dont you and all the other good little girls in mm whipe your vaginas and sort it out. Lol walli'd. Unlike Mm we are looking for a challenge and not the same old fight over and over. Even if Fi and Tlp have more 30 def we see this as a way to make ourselves better. If you really wanted a challenge, then you would have accepted our fullout. Walli you're retarded; you somehow managed to spell a 4 letter word wrong. If you didn't need advantages to win, you wouldn't have complained about MM declaring on you with 1 def cap, and yet you did, instead saying that you wanted no rules whatsoever. The contradictions keep piling up as you spout more and more garbage rofl. Also, not to beat a dead horse, but since it hasn't penetrated your thick skull yet, MM gets no advantage from 1 def gear, just less of a disadvantage. i see so you are saying we declined because you declared with 1 defence.. ah so it is an advantage i see. oh but wait now 1 defence is not an advantage. noooooooo this is all just propagandaaaaa and we can and will call ourselves legends of p2p because we have many solid years to back up the statement. Likewise i dont really think, nor does anybody who means much to in my opinion, anybody cares what you want to call yourselves with your run of high opts. woooooo crazy curry, you are well cool you mate. I have sat through this many a time, then sat through the time which will come where the tables turn and i have to facepalm everytime a mug in foe acts exactly like you and thinks he is the big balls because we are pulling big and winning a lot at the moment. that being said though, not winning much lately. Taking the scraps in the wilderness like good boys. Keep doing exactly what every other clan allows you to do in the wilderness... maybe fix up them leaks first. I'll start by pointing this out. If I were to go pking on a maxed main in edgeville wearing full dharok's, and I fought a med lvl (70 def) in the same gear, I would utterly destroy him, despite only being 29 def lvls higher. You can't possibly say that I don't have an advantage over the med lvl despite us using the same gear. That's the exact same level difference as between a pure and a turmain. Even if the gear is the same, the higher combat account has a distinct advantage. Therefore, if both sides were to wear 1 def gear, the side with all the 1 defers would still be at a disadvantage. Anyways, on to all the lies you feed your members and this community. So, the main reason FOE declined is because their pulls are pathetic and you can't compete, but not according to your propaganda. You decline a 1 def cap fullout but then say this: As I have already gone over, 1 def cap is not an advantage to us, it is simply limiting the disadvantage to just levels rather than levels + gear. So you would accept a fullout with no def cap because you think you would win if you could use better gear than MM's 1 def pures, but not when the playing field is equal (and not even equal, you still get 34 def levels on us)? That's strange, because I seem to recall you saying this: Seems a bit contradictory, doesn't it? Looks like that's another lie FOE's been feeding its members and the rest of the pure community. But don't worry Walli, you're not fooling anyone as you continually raise your def cap in order to compete. You can cling on to the past. Yes, you used to be the #1 p2p, but under the current leadership, who, based on your leaderboards, are your puppets, your clan is dying, having been relegated to #3 p2p and #6 f2p. We are the "big balls" as you say because nobody can match us in the wilderness in either server, and until that changes, everyone who isn't hiding their head in the sand as you are knows that MM is #1. As for our trips, when we have the most kills just about every single Saturday and Sunday, it's pretty difficult to dismiss that as scraps. But then again, I guess that's all the current FOE amounts to: scraps. Obviously I haven't been around that long so I don't know how you got out of previous slumps, but something tells me that it wasn't by lying about your losses and spouting propaganda. Look where that got EOP. This time last year they were pulling 130 and competing with MM, now they pull a third of that, around 45 and fight CP. When we were getting destroyed by FOE in p2p when I joined, we didn't pretend that we were winning. We blamed ourselves and used it as incentive to improve, and here we are, the undisputed #1 in p2p now. Maybe it's time for you to let someone else take hold of the reins of FOE because it seems like you don't have the mental capacity nor the character to man up and drive your clan forward. Alternatively, you can keep feeding your members and the community lies and watch as it slowly asphyxiates your clan. LMFAO. I don't necessarily respect FOE for their recent actions but you are full of **** lol. Every Sunday your clan would have topic(s) on their forums about killing FOE when they completely dismantled you, couple I have leaked on our forums aswell. You talk about them teaming? What about the teaming you've done with HF against them in P2P for the past 2 years? And by the way, just for the record in case you're new, HF + MM formed the FOEOP alliance. And just because we aren't competing with MM anymore it means we're slumping? Okay lol **** OT: FOE will win Well when you go from pulling 70+ to pulling 40-50 within a few months and you're no longer competing for the number one spot, that's typically called a slump. Then again, in your case it might just be the fact that EOP went back to it's natural standing beneath the true top pure clans. Then you say that MM teamed with HF in p2p...and that somehow formed the FOEOP alliance in f2p, because your clan doesn't even exist in p2p...what? As for our alleged topics, I guess I'll have to add you to the extensive list of clans incapable of reading then. Find me more than one or two Sunday topics in the months of November and December where we said we beat FOE. Keep in mind that we actually did beat them a few times, including one instance that Ultra mentioned on FOE leaderboards, where we ran west of bh crater then turned around and gwased them. http://www.mm-rs.org/forums/forum/57-clan-discussion/ Don't worry, it's not liable to get you hacked, unlike your own forums.

Grammar and organization pls

I think it's more than fair to say that NME's recent results haven't just been flukes, it seems like they've really picked it up in the last couple months. Good job to both clans.

This isn't a flame agains foe or any other clan, but this exactly what is wrong with the pure community; "ok let me ruin my account to the point where it is utterly useless for pking just so that I can help my clan for 4 hours a weekend." People have become too fixated on fighting other clans rather than doing what both pures and pure clan were made to do: pk. If, as a pure new to the community, I am expected to ruin my account in order to be an asset to my clan, I certainly will be reluctant to join. This isn't a turmoil or def complaint, people in MM are just as guilty of it, especially those who train over 80 attack and 77 prayer. Anyways that was off topic, ya for free bump and stuff even though it doesn't get bumped to the top. 80 att 77 pray is **** for pking 60 att 45 pray is best for 1 def 80 att 95 pray 30 def is awesome as well. turm is a pking build we are pures bro Yeah I was thinking along the lines of either 60 atk and 77 pray or 80 atk 52 pray was ok but didn't think it was worth being that specific. Also rofl 30 def turm sucks so much. You get raped by 40+ def kids who hit higher and have veng, and nobody your level wants to fight you because all you risk is proselyte. For bridding, your melee armor is **** compared to rune pures/zerks, your mage def is **** compared to rune pures/zerks, and your strength bonus is **** compared to rune pures/zerks. Oh, and a pure isn't an account with low defense, it's an account with maximum offensive capability at a low combat level. 30 def turmoil doesn't fit either of those criteria so it's not pure.