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Joined Pure Community in Year: 2007, started having pures since 2003 or 2004, solo pking at edge :-)! Started team pking in 2005 or '06, can't remember. My First Clan choice was: VD

If more clans would accept 30-45 it would become normal and thus most clans would like their basis. Think about it. There are still pure clans on these forums that dislike most of the clans on here because they accept 30 def and allow addy and what not. But for those addy clans it's normal. Just because you addy clans want to be still concidered 'pure' you're not getting 40 defence because you wouldn't be able to show your fancy kdr topics on these forums. Just so you know... 40 defence has many more advantages than 30 defence. Isn't that what you clans want? An advantage over other clans? 40 defence would give you that. :thumbsup:

These zerker clans would hunt clans that are 1-20 def and pull less. Another thing that will happen is welfaring, loads of people can't be bothered to get all those sets for F2P and P2P. And third, proper main clans will find out about these zerker clans and hunt them (which I don't mind actually since they also hunt 'pure' clans). Won't happen, even when some members in certain clans are so close to being 40 def. They got 30 defence for the advantages, It's a shame they won't get 40 for even more advantages lol. Untill then they will stick in this community and act like real pures.

Respect :) if only more clans did this.

Rune has more afvantages over addy. Why not get it then? :confused:

Clanwars is boring, haven't been to a cw event in months. Attending a pk trip now and then isn't that boring.

Force them to wear 1-10 def gear. If they want to continue using purewarfare (posting aftermath topics) they must wear 1-10 def gear durinng F2P and P2P trips. Support obviously.

Why does one adapt?Also; The mentality "IT'S JUST A GAME PLAY HOW YOU WANT TO PLAY" is fine, I respect that, but when you made a pure or advertise your clan as a pure clan, you had to follow certain limitations. 30 def gives great advantages, but it's not 1-10 or even 1-20 def, now is it? The simple fact of the matter is that 40 def and 45 def gives great advantages too, why don't you just go the whole way and accept that? Because you guys need to stay in this little community and you will get 39 def, but not 40 because it's the symbol of being main. You are doing whatever you can to get an advantage over the rest of the clans because it's too hard to win fights the right way. If you have such a problem with 30 def, why do clans with 1-20 def bother competing with us, instead of fighting 'real pure clans.' People don't get defence to gain an advantage over clans, people do it because thats how they want to play the game. No clan is forcing there members to get defence, its a personal choice. There is a certain extent of fairness when both types of clans are fighting such as 1 defence rules but excuses still come into play, however in the wilderness people will wear addy if their clan allows them to, so it's down to you whether you want to fight them or not. Either way, if your telling 30 def people to get 45 def for even better advantages and indirectly telling 30 def people to get out of here, it's diminshing the so called 'pure community.' So you think that people get 30 defence because "that's how they want to play the game" and not to gain an advantage over other clans. You kidding me? Wake up and smell the coffee. Your own clan promotes 100 combat and doing whatever it takes to get 100 combat (39 def) because that's how you want to play the game? not because you want to have the highest def possible and still be able to post on this site, and fight clans that are actually pures? C'mon, you're not that blind. Why would you bring the topic onto CP now when there are clearly other clans that have 30+ def. Tell me all the names of the members with 30+ def unquested. Don't even go there about the 44 def kid because he got hacked and he was still in the clan chat. Most of our 30+ def kids are fully quested, you just try your hardest to make our clan look bad. I got turmoil to make pking more fun for me and it surely did and i'm sure others feel the same. Just because we are raising our combat averages doesn't necessarily we're training defence? Look where your clan is at the moment, barely pulling 35 to trips when you were pulling 70 2 months ago. Can you beat any clan at clan wars? No. Why not? Because you use the defence excuse even thought it's a 1 def cap fight. Talk all the sht you want but lets try keep this topic general instead of picking out CP because I can run my mouth about your clan too. That's like you guys fighting HF or even a proper main clan in 1 def gear. I'm 100% sure you'd lose.... You got turmoil to pk, ok fair enough. But that's for P2P pking, not F2P clanning. No need to use addy on F2P trips. Even in 1 def gear you have a huge advantage over real pure clans. Stop using these forums if you're not calling your self a pure clan. If I have 30 def for turmoil, why not wear addy for f2p trips? Are we the only clan that does it? We've had F2P preps with main clans before including HF, but the fact is that you've yet again singled out CP. Why can't you complain to other clans? Just becuase we have a high def average does not mean the whole clan is 30 def. You seriously got to think about the whole community instead of trying to target us, because look where that has gotten your clan. And why don't you tell everyone that accepts 30+ def to stop using these forums then, instead of just us. In previous post I've said that every clan that allows addy (30-39 defence) and call them selves a pure clan (or say they aren't) shouldn't be on these forums.

edit. everyone make new 40-60cb accs (with 1def ;););) ) I remember when Epidemic had 60s in mith, good times! :teehee: Fighting lvl 80s in robes/mith :teehee: good times indeed! :thumbsup:

(16:40:32) <@``Karl> PW can't do ANYTHING to stop it (16:40:37) <@``Karl> It's down to the clan leaders. (16:40:41) <@``Karl> That's a fact. :confused: The clan leaders won't do anything though. Pw would lose loads of members if they would take action, thus the 'pure' community as it is now would die out. There are simple solutions though. Make 1-10 def gear mandatary in order to post your F2P (maybe P2P aswell) topic.

Kids like you make me shake my head. 3-4 years ago was 30defence allowed in clans? did people even think of getting any defense levels passed 20? You sir, are clearly new :thumbsup: Hi Dipsy. I've been Pure Clanning since 2002. Probably longer than you. Obviously just meeting with friends and going out to pk is I guess 'clanning'. You are correct, 5 years ago, not once did I ever think about getting 1 defense, but it is the times. I got 20 defense so I have a better account. Guess what, having 20 worked out much better than being 1 defense. I of course got the Defense xp by questing. Others decide not to, and really, it is none of your business. Face the fact most clans accept 30 defense now and stop living in the past. You remind me of one of those kids with the signature of the day wildy was taken out and says "Never forget" then says "get over it" then says "no". The wild is back and has been back, so what else is there to complain about? Sorry, but 80% of the pure world isn't going to change because 20% of it says 20 and 30 and 35 defense is "NH" and calling people 'new' because they believe in it. Like I said, I've most likely been clanning longer than you, and I believe in it. Face the fact. Get 20 defense, or get caught in dust behind the rest of the pure world. That is how it goes, and if you were smart, you'd realize it. I'd rather be like MM and stick to my pure roots. 1-20def was always def reqs but what is 30def? It was first 1, then 10, then 20 now 30. The last male bust be 40 def then :whistling: Go for it I'd say ;)!

Why does one adapt?Also; The mentality "IT'S JUST A GAME PLAY HOW YOU WANT TO PLAY" is fine, I respect that, but when you made a pure or advertise your clan as a pure clan, you had to follow certain limitations. 30 def gives great advantages, but it's not 1-10 or even 1-20 def, now is it? The simple fact of the matter is that 40 def and 45 def gives great advantages too, why don't you just go the whole way and accept that? Because you guys need to stay in this little community and you will get 39 def, but not 40 because it's the symbol of being main. You are doing whatever you can to get an advantage over the rest of the clans because it's too hard to win fights the right way. If you have such a problem with 30 def, why do clans with 1-20 def bother competing with us, instead of fighting 'real pure clans.' People don't get defence to gain an advantage over clans, people do it because thats how they want to play the game. No clan is forcing there members to get defence, its a personal choice. There is a certain extent of fairness when both types of clans are fighting such as 1 defence rules but excuses still come into play, however in the wilderness people will wear addy if their clan allows them to, so it's down to you whether you want to fight them or not. Either way, if your telling 30 def people to get 45 def for even better advantages and indirectly telling 30 def people to get out of here, it's diminshing the so called 'pure community.' So you think that people get 30 defence because "that's how they want to play the game" and not to gain an advantage over other clans. You kidding me? Wake up and smell the coffee. Your own clan promotes 100 combat and doing whatever it takes to get 100 combat (39 def) because that's how you want to play the game? not because you want to have the highest def possible and still be able to post on this site, and fight clans that are actually pures? C'mon, you're not that blind. Why would you bring the topic onto CP now when there are clearly other clans that have 30+ def. Tell me all the names of the members with 30+ def unquested. Don't even go there about the 44 def kid because he got hacked and he was still in the clan chat. Most of our 30+ def kids are fully quested, you just try your hardest to make our clan look bad. I got turmoil to make pking more fun for me and it surely did and i'm sure others feel the same. Just because we are raising our combat averages doesn't necessarily we're training defence? Look where your clan is at the moment, barely pulling 35 to trips when you were pulling 70 2 months ago. Can you beat any clan at clan wars? No. Why not? Because you use the defence excuse even thought it's a 1 def cap fight. Talk all the sht you want but lets try keep this topic general instead of picking out CP because I can run my mouth about your clan too. That's like you guys fighting HF or even a proper main clan in 1 def gear. I'm 100% sure you'd lose.... You got turmoil to pk, ok fair enough. But that's for P2P pking, not F2P clanning. No need to use addy on F2P trips. Even in 1 def gear you have a huge advantage over real pure clans. Stop using these forums if you're not calling your self a pure clan. See that type of attitude sets your clan up for failure since your just making excuses, My class is starting talk to yall later It's a not an excuse, It's a fact, and you know it. We're not in your league as I've said before and I'm not afraid to say so. So why keep competing with real pure clans? Why keep using pure warfare when you're not a pure clan (acording to your self)? Fight HF in a 1 def gear matched fight and proof me wrong then? I bet you would make 'excuses' aswell :thumbsup: VS your type of clan 'my' clan isn't doing so good even opt, but for me that isn't a surprise seeing as we're fighting clans outside our league (70-80s in robes vs 90s-100s in addy), we're clearly the underdogs. I don't care about you and those other clans allowing addy. It's the fact that you and those other clans are acting like you're pures by using these forums. You still ignored my post though. Enjoy your class ;)!

Why does one adapt?Also; The mentality "IT'S JUST A GAME PLAY HOW YOU WANT TO PLAY" is fine, I respect that, but when you made a pure or advertise your clan as a pure clan, you had to follow certain limitations. 30 def gives great advantages, but it's not 1-10 or even 1-20 def, now is it? The simple fact of the matter is that 40 def and 45 def gives great advantages too, why don't you just go the whole way and accept that? Because you guys need to stay in this little community and you will get 39 def, but not 40 because it's the symbol of being main. You are doing whatever you can to get an advantage over the rest of the clans because it's too hard to win fights the right way. If you have such a problem with 30 def, why do clans with 1-20 def bother competing with us, instead of fighting 'real pure clans.' People don't get defence to gain an advantage over clans, people do it because thats how they want to play the game. No clan is forcing there members to get defence, its a personal choice. There is a certain extent of fairness when both types of clans are fighting such as 1 defence rules but excuses still come into play, however in the wilderness people will wear addy if their clan allows them to, so it's down to you whether you want to fight them or not. Either way, if your telling 30 def people to get 45 def for even better advantages and indirectly telling 30 def people to get out of here, it's diminshing the so called 'pure community.' So you think that people get 30 defence because "that's how they want to play the game" and not to gain an advantage over other clans. You kidding me? Wake up and smell the coffee. Your own clan promotes 100 combat and doing whatever it takes to get 100 combat (39 def) because that's how you want to play the game? not because you want to have the highest def possible and still be able to post on this site, and fight clans that are actually pures? C'mon, you're not that blind. Why would you bring the topic onto CP now when there are clearly other clans that have 30+ def. Tell me all the names of the members with 30+ def unquested. Don't even go there about the 44 def kid because he got hacked and he was still in the clan chat. Most of our 30+ def kids are fully quested, you just try your hardest to make our clan look bad. I got turmoil to make pking more fun for me and it surely did and i'm sure others feel the same. Just because we are raising our combat averages doesn't necessarily we're training defence? Look where your clan is at the moment, barely pulling 35 to trips when you were pulling 70 2 months ago. Can you beat any clan at clan wars? No. Why not? Because you use the defence excuse even thought it's a 1 def cap fight. Talk all the sht you want but lets try keep this topic general instead of picking out CP because I can run my mouth about your clan too. That's like you guys fighting HF or even a proper main clan in 1 def gear. I'm 100% sure you'd lose.... You got turmoil to pk, ok fair enough. But that's for P2P pking, not F2P clanning. No need to use addy on F2P trips. Even in 1 def gear you have a huge advantage over real pure clans. Stop using these forums if you're not calling your self a pure clan.

It's not called handicapping, it's called being an actual pure clan. You aren't even looking at the argument properly. Yes, this is just a game, and the ones who have the best armor will always win, then why don't you get the fuck off of this site and go get the best armor possible in F2P? "BUT YOU GOTTA ADAPT YOOOOO" - Why? Why are you adapting? The guys that adapt are the ones who couldn't survive in the first place. Yes turmoil came out which gave great bonuses with 30 def, but 45 def gives great bonuses too? You guys aren't "adapting" or advancing in the pure community. You guys are doing whatever it takes to win. That's it. Promoting 39 def in your clan to get higher combat, for advantages. That's not adapting, that's called being shit at what warring, and trying to gain as many little advantages as possible so you can win. . You're not understanding the whole point of being pures and being in a pure clan. It isn't some "silly honor code" that can just be looked over. If you accept 30 def, then why are you still accepting kids that are 1 def? You don't understand that the people aren't angry that you're accepting 30 def. People are angry that you're accepting 30 def and then calling yourselves pures. You post on a site that is for pures, so if you think that being pure is follow a silly honor rule, why don't you get off of the site and do your own thing? Face it, all the clans with 30 defence are not "adapting to survive", you just want the advantage because you guys don't know how to improve yourselves in any other way. You can't accept 1 defence and then tell the rest of your members to get 39 def so you have a bigger chance of winning fights. If you want addy/30 def, it's fine, but get off of this site and stop accepting pures. p.s. Here's a tip for you: Rune helps MUCH more than Adamant in fights. Try it you fool. p.s.s. Don't give me the usual "WHAT IS PURE" bullshit either, the majority of the guys on this site can agree on what pure actually is and isn't. inb4WERUNHOWWEWANTL0L0L0 When did I say that I called cp a pure clan? I said that most clans on here are just normal clans with purelike characteristics and by that I mean being below 40 def but still using defense to our advantage as most clans here are. You have lost your argument before you ever even started, next time take the time carefully to examine something before you respond and making yourself look like a fool. You are only against my opinion because it happens to echo the opinion of this whole clanning community but it is against your clans opinion. none of us or most of us on here are not pure but that is not my argument, and it isn't even anything worth mentioning whether you are pure or not that's not important. My argument is defense is part of the game and some of you can't realize that and try to make excuses You're proving prateeks point :thumbsup:. He is talking about you guys using these forums (made for pure clans). You stated in 2 posts that Cp is not a pure clan and yet you still use purewarfare like all those other clans that accept 30-39 def. Thus in someway you still think/feel like Cp is a pure clan by using these forums... :confused: As Prateek said, get 40 def. Why stick at 39 def? I mean.. 39 def is probably even worse. You and the other clans don't want to leave Pure Warfare because you know you won't be able to post when you accept 40 def. Too scared to post and compete with the clans over on zybez, that's the problem... I guess they have to adapt to 40+ def :-)!

It's not called handicapping, it's called being an actual pure clan. You aren't even looking at the argument properly. Yes, this is just a game, and the ones who have the best armor will always win, then why don't you get the fuck off of this site and go get the best armor possible in F2P? "BUT YOU GOTTA ADAPT YOOOOO" - Why? Why are you adapting? The guys that adapt are the ones who couldn't survive in the first place. Yes turmoil came out which gave great bonuses with 30 def, but 45 def gives great bonuses too? You guys aren't "adapting" or advancing in the pure community. You guys are doing whatever it takes to win. That's it. Promoting 39 def in your clan to get higher combat, for advantages. That's not adapting, that's called being shit at what warring, and trying to gain as many little advantages as possible so you can win. . You're not understanding the whole point of being pures and being in a pure clan. It isn't some "silly honor code" that can just be looked over. If you accept 30 def, then why are you still accepting kids that are 1 def? You don't understand that the people aren't angry that you're accepting 30 def. People are angry that you're accepting 30 def and then calling yourselves pures. You post on a site that is for pures, so if you think that being pure is follow a silly honor rule, why don't you get off of the site and do your own thing? Face it, all the clans with 30 defence are not "adapting to survive", you just want the advantage because you guys don't know how to improve yourselves in any other way. You can't accept 1 defence and then tell the rest of your members to get 39 def so you have a bigger chance of winning fights. If you want addy/30 def, it's fine, but get off of this site and stop accepting pures. p.s. Here's a tip for you: Rune helps MUCH more than Adamant in fights. Try it you fool. p.s.s. Don't give me the usual "WHAT IS PURE" bullshit either, the majority of the guys on this site can agree on what pure actually is and isn't. inb4WERUNHOWWEWANTL0L0L0 When did I say that I called cp a pure clan? I said that most clans on here are just normal clans with purelike characteristics and by that I mean being below 40 def but still using defense to our advantage as most clans here are. You have lost your argument before you ever even started, next time take the time carefully to examine something before you respond and making yourself look like a fool. You are only against my opinion because it happens to echo the opinion of this whole clanning community but it is against your clans opinion. none of us or most of us on here are not pure but that is not my argument, and it isn't even anything worth mentioning whether you are pure or not that's not important. My argument is defense is part of the game and some of you can't realize that and try to make excuses You're proving prateeks point :thumbsup:. He is talking about you guys using these forums (made for pure clans). You stated in 2 posts that Cp is not a pure clan and yet you still use purewarfare like all those other clans that accept 30-39 def. Thus in someway you (and those other clans) still think/feel like you're a pure clan by using these forums... :confused: As Prateek said, get 40 def. Why stick at 39 def? I mean.. 39 def is probably even worse. You and the other clans don't want to leave Pure Warfare because you know you won't be able to post when you accept 40 def.

It's good that you know you're not a pure clan `Peter, that's a start. But I don't get why you (and other clans that accept 30-39 defemce) fight real pure clans then? I mean... they are NOT in your league, since as you've said, you're not a pure clan. We ALL complain when HF fight/crash us. For real pure clans It's the same thing when lvl 100s and 110s (these 110s almost meet the reqs of good main clans -> example: Forsaken 110+ F2P Combat, 80+ Defence, 80+ Magic) are fighting a real pure clan. I mean.. do you feel accomplished when you beat lvl 70s in robes when you're in addy and you're cmb 100~? I doubt you really do because the outcome is expected in even opt fights. Fi, TLP, CP, Z, Eop, Pot?, Foe and MM (because of their numbers) should just focus on each other if all you guys are sticking to being 35+ def (MM being there because they can compete with you guys because of their numbers). I am not talking about clans that accept 30+ defence and pull below 30. Real pure clans can fight you, but they would need a huge opt advantage over you which is common sense. So far the only real pure clan who has no issues and problems with these clans is MM due to their numbers. You guys are in a totally different league. This is how I feel about things, I know it's the wilderness and you guys don't care who or what you hit (any clan would try and kill a smaller clan when they have the change when they are in the same world and place) but It's kind of stupid having to fight lvl 100s in addy acting like they are pure. Then after that post a topic including the fight. But oh well, things won't change and people will keep complaining or trying to fix this. I probably think it would be a good idea for real pure clans to start pking on different times and avoid these clans that are in a different league (clans that accept 30-39 def) if they keep focussing on real pure clans.

Goodjobbies :) was a really good challenge for NME I bet.

Agreed. Would be cool to force clans to change their reqs to 40-60 cmb with 1-10 def. Start all over again. But oh well.. this isn't possible.

Downhill obviously (unless tons of low lvl clans open and the people in it aren't multiclanning). "40 def = main, 39 def = pure" apparantly... I don't get why these clans don't just get 40 def. Clans need addy in F2P to survive and keep competing. Won't stop.

Goodjobbies :)!

Saw DK and laughed.

:) WAS FUN!!!!!!

Nice job :)!

Holland obviously...